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Thread: Are the far-left and the far-right comparable? Which is more dangerous to society?

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    Default Are the far-left and the far-right comparable? Which is more dangerous to society?

    Anti-fascism is a big concern for many on the socialist left. Their definition of fascism can be quite elastic and always seems to exclude ultra-reactionary Islamists (who are often seen as an oppressed minority) but usually encompasses even those mildly concerned about immigration.

    Not to impugn their sincerity, but many legitimately wonder whether the far-left are ignoring extremists in their own camp. As for micro-Marxist parties aspiring to overthrow every government in the world...if that isn't 'extremist', what is? We hear a lot about Golden Dawn in Greece, but almost nothing about the Stalinist KKE.

    Even today, the memory of the communist totalitarian dictatorships (like the old Soviet Union, or modern Cuba) seem to be treated very mildly compared with the fascist totalitarian regimes, like Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy.

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    Historically the far left have led to far more deaths and destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readytogo View Post
    Anti-fascism is a big concern for many on the socialist left. Their definition of fascism can be quite elastic and always seems to exclude ultra-reactionary Islamists (who are often seen as an oppressed minority) but usually encompasses even those mildly concerned about immigration.

    Not to impugn their sincerity, but many legitimately wonder whether the far-left are ignoring extremists in their own camp. As for micro-Marxist parties aspiring to overthrow every government in the world...if that isn't 'extremist', what is? We hear a lot about Golden Dawn in Greece, but almost nothing about the Stalinist KKE.

    Even today, the memory of the communist totalitarian dictatorships (like the old Soviet Union, or modern Cuba) seem to be treated very mildly compared with the fascist totalitarian regimes, like Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy.
    Fascists and the Socialist Left are squabbling sibblings.


    They are equally a threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gijoe View Post
    Historically the far left have led to far more deaths and destruction.
    As we speak, Honecker is tossing uncomfortably under his Uncle Joe Stalin duvet, sensing that somewhere the running dog of imperialism gijoe is dissing Scientific Socialism............. any moment now ........................................

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    They meet at the extremes in their fondness for totalitarianism. If one goes by body count, the extreme left has been lethal to humans on a scale the extreme right can only envy.
    "It is amazing how many people think that they can answer an argument by attributing bad motives to those who disagree with them." - Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Parlon View Post
    They meet at the extremes in their fondness for totalitarianism. If one goes by body count, the extreme left has been lethal to humans on a scale the extreme right can only envy.
    They meet at several points around the compass - they are essentially the same thing.


    They have a commitment to centralised control and direction of economic decisions.
    They both have no truck with freedom of speech or freedom of the press/media.
    They both see no need for elections - unless they can be assured of winning.
    And, most interestingly, they promote their cause through division - "us" versus "them" - but with their own twist. Fascists pick a division on culture (them fureners), Socialists pick a social division (them bosses/rich).

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    Any ideology that places the will of the 'movement' above the rights of individuals is dangerous. Whether it claims to be fascist or socialist is less important than if it believes that the ends justify the means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanie Lemass View Post
    As we speak, Honecker is tossing uncomfortably under his Uncle Joe Stalin duvet, sensing that somewhere the running dog of imperialism gijoe is dissing Scientific Socialism............. any moment now ........................................
    Were the provos who carried out Kingsmill considered to be far left or far right?
    Last edited by Honecker; 10th May 2013 at 05:29 PM.

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    Remember naziism was the national SOCIALIST german WORKERS party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Parlon View Post
    They meet at the extremes in their fondness for totalitarianism. If one goes by body count, the extreme left has been lethal to humans on a scale the extreme right can only envy.
    Exactly, Stalin, Mao, PolPot etc.

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