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    I think it is time for people to be concerned about the ambulance service in this country. The problem is getting worse. I just read of a boy in East Cork that died. He was driven to hospital after being advised that no ambulance was available as the only other one was on a call out at the time. An ambulance may not have saved him but it would have given the public solace to know that everything was done to try to save him.

    GAA star blasts HSE for not sending ambulance to aid of dying toddler - Independent.ie

    No this is not the first such incident in recent times. There have been others where the Gardai have been forced to drive the patient or the ambulance.

    Staff shortage leads to Garda driving injured child to hospital in ambulance | Irish Examiner

    ‘GARDA HAD TO DRIVE AMBULANCE DUE TO STAFF SHORTAGE’ – COUNCILLOR | Donegal Daily

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    the wheels are coming of the cart. No problem getting an ambulance in D4 land but it seems like if you live outside the pale your on your own. I bet if a minister was going to a race meeting there would be a helicopter on standby. Much more inportant I guess than doing all you can to save the life of a youngster.

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    Unfortunately this is what happens when front line services are slashed in order to keep management and bureaucracy going...

    There's very simple answers to all of this...

    Compulsory redundancies when and where they are needed would go a long way to avoiding this... as opposed to the early retirement and voluntary redundancy bullsh!t that has been indulged until now... All this has resulted in is the loss of the best (who have prospects elsewhere) and those with the most experience...

    Or we could all pay even more taxes and charges... which is probably what will happen... because neither the government nor the people have the balls to stand up to vested interests in all sectors and including the state sector...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanner Island View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when front line services are slashed in order to keep management and bureaucracy going...

    There's very simple answers to all of this...

    Compulsory redundancies when and where they are needed would go a long way to avoiding this... as opposed to the early retirement and voluntary redundancy bullsh!t that has been indulged until now... All this has resulted in is the loss of the best (who have prospects elsewhere) and those with the most experience...

    Or we could all pay even more taxes and charges... which is probably what will happen... because neither the government nor the people have the balls to stand up to vested interests in all sectors and including the state sector...
    Agreed. I am not blaming the ambulance service for this or any frontline staff for the matter. No, the blames lies squarely with the government and in particular Dr. Reilly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulster-Lad View Post
    Agreed. I am not blaming the ambulance service for this or any frontline staff for the matter. No, the blames lies squaring with the government and in particular Dr. Reilly.
    Don't forget the unions either...

    They've a lot to answer for too... for the part they've played in all of this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulster-Lad View Post
    Agreed. I am not blaming the ambulance service for this or any frontline staff for the matter. No, the blames lies squaring with the government and in particular Dr. Reilly.
    Reilly is only responsibile for his budget so he is part of the problem, but everyone that bleats about protecting the foreign aid budget or maintianing defense spending , shelling out on carbon credits or sinking money into RTE, here is a small example of the payback....so thank you all the quangos and state paid workers who work but dont provide anything useful, we can all sleep at little less easily in our beds tonight pondering what basic service will fail when we want to use it.

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    The child was conscious and crying went brought to the SouthDoc by a member of the public and had to be transported on to Cork University Hospital by the same member of the public.

    No ambulance was available for injured child - RTÉ News
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulster-Lad View Post
    The child was conscious and crying went brought to the SouthDoc by a member of the public and had to be transported on to Cork University Hospital by the same member of the public.

    No ambulance was available for injured child - RTÉ News
    the child deserved a helicopter given the circumstances, time is very important with head injuries.

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    Problem with reconfiguration, is that when you close smaller emergency departments, journey times and demands for ambulances go up.

    For example someone with out a car in Mallow could have gotten a friend or taxi to drop them to Mallow general before it closed, now they are more likely to call an ambulance because the nearest A&E is in Cork.

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    What is bizzare is that Midleton is about a 20 min drive by Ambulance to Cork University Hospital. It is dual carrigeway all the way. It might take 30 mins by Car having to stop at traffic lights etc. I could do it in 20 no problem.

    If a place like Midleton doesn't have a functioning emergency service there is no hope for the remainder of the country.

    The fact the 999 responder on the phone said to move the child to Southdoc from scene of the fall is absolutely against the rules of first aid. By doing so that child risked possible spinal injury. As it happens the child is now dead but it goes to show once again, that people in authority cannot be trusted.
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