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    Should the govt convert repossessed NAMA properties to prisons to resolve the overcrowding problems?

    Shatter is using overcrowding as an argument that judges are sending too many to prison.

    I refer to the statistics below to support my argument.

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    The annual crime figures from the CSO have shown that there was a substantial increase in murders and manslaughters in 2012.
    There were 60 murders and manslaughters last year, 15 more violent deaths than in 2011.
    The figures also showed that 54 of the 60 people killed in 2012 were murdered.
    A third of the murders were gang-related, up significantly on the year before.
    White collar crime, specifically fraud and deception, rape and explosives offences also increased last year.
    Fair and Balanced

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    I'd allow the private sector to build more prisons and privatise the existing number of state prisons.

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    How do your statistics support your argument? What do murder rates have to do with the number of those actually convicted of murder? Do you think those convicted of murder are the people Shatter thinks shouldn't be sent to prison?
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    We need to cut the crazy pay and pensions of Prison Officers before we start adding more Prison places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devoutcapitalist View Post
    I'd allow the private sector to build more prisons and privatise the existing number of state prisons.
    I understand that many prisons in the states are run by the private sector, how exactly does that work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Politics matters View Post
    I understand that many prisons in the states are run by the private sector, how exactly does that work?
    Its still only a small minority of prisons in America are privately run. Privately run jails in Ireland would save the state money.

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    Prisons are not just houses with bars thrown across the windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    Should the govt convert repossessed NAMA properties to prisons to resolve the overcrowding problems?

    Shatter is using overcrowding as an argument that judges are sending too many to prison.

    I refer to the statistics below to support my argument.
    Its not the developers and the bankers that are causing the overcrowding is it

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    Another issue is that the courts would be less reticent about imposing harsh sentences if there was more prison space. 90% of prison sentences are about 1 yr or less according to a recent RTE report. Murderers and rapists should be the priority in incarceration terms.
    Fair and Balanced

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