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    The UK has an obsession with the CTA and has a notion that Ireland wants to maintain it due, maybe, to the land border on thos island. I entered the UK twice recently and must say that my second was far more pleasant than my first.
    I arrived in Stansted on Monday and noted that the old system of presenting one's alighting (original boarding!) document had to be presented to the civilian checkers to get into the baggage hall thus bypassing the long rows of immigration booths with absolutely no customers at that particular time......08h30. Then around the corner were two police officers seeking passports...giving the impression that they were just doing a spot check on a batch of arrival passengers traveling within the so-called CTA. I explained that i was not prepared to comply until I had queried their activities and was asked to sit on the (only) one very comfortable chair provided until they had time to talk to me..... I was quoted the internal Schengen law that permitted them to engage in these non permanent checks that I understood, cannot be used by non Schengen countries but I will check this out with the European Commission. Their check was also because of the occasional abuse of the CTA arrangement where clandestines exchange boarding cards in the passage on the way up from flights that arrive from different countries outside UK/Ireland. It was a pleasant discussion but I am bemused to note that the UK uses the EU when it suits them........ (not so Dublin Garda but more on that some other time..)

    On leaving Stansted there were no police or immigration checks but I did notice that the police have desks, after hand baggage security check, available to operate Section 7 on ALL departing passengers where necessary.They were not in use yesterday. The use of Section 7 (2000 Act) implies that each person going through this check/control is considered to have been a potential terrorist so it has to be treated very seriously.

    The previous entry/exit at Holyhead 'report' will have to wait.......

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    Didn't have the same problems here.
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    Unusual experience, Ive never had it in my many, many, many times Ive arrived in the UK from Ireland. On one occasion arriving at Gatwick when unusually there was for some technical reason a queue at the CTA check while all the Passport checking booths had no queues I attempted to go through the passport checks but was told by a jobsworth that people travelling from Ireland were not allowed to go through Passport checks, so I instead had to turn around and queue up for the the far less thorough boarding card checks at the CTA booth.

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    That is unusual, last year when flying from Kerry to Luton, I got off at Luton, got my bags and left and nobody checked anything. When I arrived back at Kerry, I had to show my passport.

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    I've never had anything like that either in hundreds of flights between the UK and Ireland. Don't see how Stansted could justify it as in both Heathrow and Luton you walk right out of the airport with not even a boarding card check when coming off an Irish flight

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    Usually travel Liverpool to Shannon or Holyhead to Dublin. Never had an issue. Then again I have learned never to smart mouth at customs or immigration officials.
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    Can the OP please explain his obsession with CTA, Schengen etc?

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    Isn't there an agreement between UK/Ireland were people can move between the pair without CTA checks and passport checks etc in the same way people can move between NI and ROI without check?

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    Though now that I've thought about it, Heathrows Irish section is totally isolated and then eventually leads out to the domestic flight section so no change of mingling with somebody in a corridor who is from a non CTA/domestic flight. Long time since I've been in Luton so don't remember if there are any mingling opportunities

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post


    Didn't have the same problems here.
    Is that checkpoint between Cork and Kerry petunia
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