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    Default Why are the German Greens considering electoral suicide?

    Annihilation awaits any small left wing party that enters coalition with a big rightist party. The Irish Greens and Labour and the UK's Lib Dems perhaps told themselves they were crossing the political spectrum for the greater good. There was stalemate and the nation needed a government.

    But the people - including many of their own supporters - probably saw an act of opportunism by which high-ranking members got a few bums on ministerial seats at the expense of the party as a whole.

    No small leftist party should be entering coalition with a large rightist party to implement what will be five years of austerity and cutbacks - not unless they want the thrill of seeing their top people as ministers, followed by a brutal wipeout. Please take note, Sinn Féin. This is a crisis of right wing policies; let the right wingers sort it out.

    Greens contemplate a post-election future with Merkel - The Irish Times - Fri, Apr 26, 2013
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    Crisis of right wing politics? That'll come as news to British voters whose economy was driven off the road by 13 years of Labour government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphonista View Post
    Crisis of right wing politics? That'll come as news to British voters whose economy was driven off the road by 13 years of Labour government.
    That should have read "crisis of right wing policies". I've corrected it.
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    This is a crisis of right wing politics; let the right wingers sort it out.

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    How right you are pun not intented.If we could only get a proper government and get to work on all that state waste and get down to an promoting entrepreneurial spirit instead of constant moaning the country might get off its ass.

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    Highly unlikely such a situation would arise, as things stand the only arrangement that would command greater than 50% support in opinion polls is a SPD/CDU grand coalition.
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    I am not sure that saying ************************ the country and the underprivileged let the right wingers do what they like is good politics.

    For one thing it got us to where we are with a bankrupt country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finbin o toole View Post
    How right you are pun not intented.If we could only get a proper government and get to work on all that state waste and get down to an promoting entrepreneurial spirit instead of constant moaning the country might get off its ass.
    An entrepreneurial spirit is fine. An entrepreneurial spirit that comes with the mouth open looking for bailouts when things go wrong isn't. Some people want the laws of the jungle to be enforced rigorously as long as they're winning. Then they demand safety nets and so much more when they start to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shqiptar View Post
    How right you are pun not intented.If we could only get a proper government and get to work on all that state waste and get down to an promoting entrepreneurial spirit instead of constant moaning the country might get off its ass.
    An entrepreneurial spirit is fine. An entrepreneurial spirit that comes with the mouth open looking for bailouts when things go wrong isn't. Some people want the laws of the jungle to be enforced rigorously as long as they're winning. Then they demand safety nets and so much more when they start to lose.[/QUOTE]

    I keep agreeing with you 100% Let the right wing parties who just might sort the mess out do the job and let all the failures take the hit,

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiel View Post
    I am not sure that saying ************************ the country and the underprivileged let the right wingers do what they like is good politics.

    For one thing it got us to where we are with a bankrupt country.
    Well, the budget needs to be balanced. Whether it's spending cuts or tax increases, I'm not disagreeing with the idea that the money needs to come from somewhere.

    In Ireland in 2011, the Labour Party entered government for the first time in 14 years to clear up the crisis. They're enforcing unpopular policies and will face an electoral Armageddon in 2016. Who stands to gain? Fianna Fáil: the scumbags who cause the disaster in the first place.

    With the benefit of a wonderful thing called hindsight, the LP should have stayed out in 2011 and forced FG and FF to come to an arrangement. It would have brought about a quasi-revolutionary and long overdue realignment in Irish politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finbin o toole View Post
    I keep agreeing with you 100% Let the right wing parties who just might sort the mess out do the job and let all the failures take the hit,
    Okay, could you sort out the quote tags in the above post, please? Because it looks like I'm saying stuff that you said.
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