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    The Guardian publishes declassified documents shedding light on the struggle for State of Israel. The British government knew from the moment it planned to withdraw its forces from Palestine more than 60 years ago that partition of the territory and the founding of the state of Israel would lead to war and defeat for the Arabs.

    As early as October 1946, two years before partition, UK officials warned London that Jewish opinion would oppose partition "unless the Jewish share were so enlarged as to make the scheme wholly unacceptable to Arabs".

    British officials warned the colonial secretary, George Hall: "The Jewish public … endorsed the attitude of its leaders that terrorism is a natural consequence of the general policy of His Majesty's Government", including turning away ships carrying "illegal" Jewish immigrants, which included the illegal infiltration of Jews into Palestine.

    A report written in early 1948, as the war for Israel broke out, read "Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands. It is now obvious that the only hope of regaining their position lies in the regular armies of the Arab states."

    British officials predicted war

    So now we have more proof that the Arabs did flee from the fighting and were not 'expelled' en masse as many would try to argue.

    Regarding the illegal infiltration of Jews into palestine being terrorism I don't know what to say about that, except that all the Irish who are in America illegally must be terrorists .......though maybe back then things were looked at differently than they are now. But I'm glad to see the Guardian, of all publications, is now admitting that Arabs fled from Israel in their thousands. Hopefully these declassified documents will put an end to the false accusation that Israel was involved in ethnic cleansing
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim View Post
    The Guardian publishes declassified documents shedding light on the struggle for State of Israel. The British government knew from the moment it planned to withdraw its forces from Palestine more than 60 years ago that partition of the territory and the founding of the state of Israel would lead to war and defeat for the Arabs.

    As early as October 1946, two years before partition, UK officials warned London that Jewish opinion would oppose partition "unless the Jewish share were so enlarged as to make the scheme wholly unacceptable to Arabs".

    British officials warned the colonial secretary, George Hall: "The Jewish public … endorsed the attitude of its leaders that terrorism is a natural consequence of the general policy of His Majesty's Government", including turning away ships carrying "illegal" Jewish immigrants, which included the illegal infiltration of Jews into Palestine.

    A report written in early 1948, as the war for Israel broke out, read "Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands. It is now obvious that the only hope of regaining their position lies in the regular armies of the Arab states."

    British officials predicted war

    So now we have more proof that the Arabs did flee from the fighting and were not 'expelled' en masse as many would try to argue.

    Regarding the illegal infiltration of Jews into palestine being terrorism I don't know what to say about that, except that all the Irish who are in America illegally must be terrorists .......though maybe back then things were looked at differently than they are now. But I'm glad to see the Guardian, of all publications, is now admitting that Arabs fled from Israel in their thousands. Hopefully these declassified documents will put an end to the false accusation that Israel was involved in ethnic cleansing
    In fairness, the Irish in America tended not to blow up hotels using bombs disguised as milk churns
    They would have been given the boot promptly if they tried any of that codology.

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    But Palestine didn't exist. An empty land for a people with no land. Read your Leon Uris again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim View Post
    The Guardian publishes declassified documents shedding light on the struggle for State of Israel. The British government knew from the moment it planned to withdraw its forces from Palestine more than 60 years ago that partition of the territory and the founding of the state of Israel would lead to war and defeat for the Arabs.

    As early as October 1946, two years before partition, UK officials warned London that Jewish opinion would oppose partition "unless the Jewish share were so enlarged as to make the scheme wholly unacceptable to Arabs".

    British officials warned the colonial secretary, George Hall: "The Jewish public … endorsed the attitude of its leaders that terrorism is a natural consequence of the general policy of His Majesty's Government", including turning away ships carrying "illegal" Jewish immigrants, which included the illegal infiltration of Jews into Palestine.

    A report written in early 1948, as the war for Israel broke out, read "Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands. It is now obvious that the only hope of regaining their position lies in the regular armies of the Arab states."

    British officials predicted war

    So now we have more proof that the Arabs did flee from the fighting and were not 'expelled' en masse as many would try to argue.

    Regarding the illegal infiltration of Jews into palestine being terrorism I don't know what to say about that, except that all the Irish who are in America illegally must be terrorists .......though maybe back then things were looked at differently than they are now. But I'm glad to see the Guardian, of all publications, is now admitting that Arabs fled from Israel in their thousands. Hopefully these declassified documents will put an end to the false accusation that Israel was involved in ethnic cleansing
    I'm very sorry but it does not prove that at all. It shows that as far as one British report went some Palestinians were fleeing the fighting. 'They are fleeing mixed areas in their thousands' does not exclude either that they fleeing in fear of massacres or intimidation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim View Post
    The Guardian publishes declassified documents shedding light on the struggle for State of Israel. The British government knew from the moment it planned to withdraw its forces from Palestine more than 60 years ago that partition of the territory and the founding of the state of Israel would lead to war and defeat for the Arabs.

    As early as October 1946, two years before partition, UK officials warned London that Jewish opinion would oppose partition "unless the Jewish share were so enlarged as to make the scheme wholly unacceptable to Arabs".

    British officials warned the colonial secretary, George Hall: "The Jewish public … endorsed the attitude of its leaders that terrorism is a natural consequence of the general policy of His Majesty's Government", including turning away ships carrying "illegal" Jewish immigrants, which included the illegal infiltration of Jews into Palestine.

    A report written in early 1948, as the war for Israel broke out, read "Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands. It is now obvious that the only hope of regaining their position lies in the regular armies of the Arab states."

    British officials predicted war

    So now we have more proof that the Arabs did flee from the fighting and were not 'expelled' en masse as many would try to argue.

    Regarding the illegal infiltration of Jews into palestine being terrorism I don't know what to say about that, except that all the Irish who are in America illegally must be terrorists .......though maybe back then things were looked at differently than they are now. But I'm glad to see the Guardian, of all publications, is now admitting that Arabs fled from Israel in their thousands. Hopefully these declassified documents will put an end to the false accusation that Israel was involved in ethnic cleansing

    More selected nonsense and twisted lies paraded as narrative by you in your desperate attempt to justify the colonisation of Palestine by European settlers

    Ahemm

    "After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists"

    So the agressors were the jews

    further on

    "The Jewish public … endorsed the attitude of its leaders that terrorism is a natural consequence of the general policy of His Majesty's Government","

    And it was done by extension of settlers

    "The documents, which have a remarkable contemporary resonance, reveal how British officials looked on as Jewish settlers took over more and more Arab land."


    Like every other colonisation the interlopers make deals , promises always lies, then rewrite history and justify their despicable behavior and eventually become convinced its "gods will" that they colonise what ever unfortunate corner of the world these racists choose as home


    And like every other colonial project since the 1850s it will ultimately fail and disappear, becoming but a footnote in history ..... and given the warmongering nature and murderous intent of Israel, it being one of the worst examples of blood thirsty colonialism , the sooner the better
    Is there any Incompetence Scandal or Corruption that would actually make the Irish electorate wake up ....It seems not, so screw em

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    This is news? It would be more surprising if they hadn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P Ryan View Post
    In fairness, the Irish in America tended not to blow up hotels using bombs disguised as milk churns ;
    Shssssh...
    L'Chaim prefers not to believe in such fairy tales.

    Disguised as milk churns were they?
    Bit like big pressure cookers no doubt.
    At some point the gloves must come off and we face our adversaries.
    We're all Rhodesians now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brughahaha View Post
    More selected nonsense and twisted lies paraded as narrative by you in your desperate attempt to justify the colonisation of Palestine by European settlers

    Ahemm

    "After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists"

    So the agressors were the jews

    further on

    "The Jewish public … endorsed the attitude of its leaders that terrorism is a natural consequence of the general policy of His Majesty's Government","

    And it was done by extension of settlers

    "The documents, which have a remarkable contemporary resonance, reveal how British officials looked on as Jewish settlers took over more and more Arab land."


    Like every other colonisation the interlopers make deals , promises always lies, then rewrite history and justify their despicable behavior and eventually become convinced its "gods will" that they colonise what ever unfortunate corner of the world these racists choose as home


    And like every other colonial project since the 1850s it will ultimately fail and disappear, becoming but a footnote in history ..... and given the warmongering nature and murderous intent of Israel, it being one of the worst examples of blood thirsty colonialism , the sooner the better
    And we all know what "a political decision acceptable to Arab interests" was........no Jewish state at all in the geographical area of palestine, no matter what size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD66 View Post
    I'm very sorry but it does not prove that at all. It shows that as far as one British report went some Palestinians were fleeing the fighting. 'They are fleeing mixed areas in their thousands' does not exclude either that they fleeing in fear of massacres or intimidation.
    No the declassified documents state they were fleeing following the cowardly example of their inept leaders - ""Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands."
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