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Thread: This day in Irish history,1938:Britain agrees to hand over the treaty ports to Mr De Valera

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    Default This day in Irish history,1938:Britain agrees to hand over the treaty ports to Mr De Valera

    An informative article by Ryle Dwyer in todays Irish Examiner about the Anglo-Irish agreement in 1938 which ended the economic war and by which Britain handed over the naval bases which it had held in Ireland since 1922.

    Irish control of the treaty ports enabled the country to remain neutral in world war II.

    TODAY marks the anniversary of the Anglo-Irish agreements of Apr 25, 1938.
    The British not only agreed to end the Economic War but also to hand over the three Irish ports and abrogate all rights to other facilities in the 26 counties.
    Chamberlain was so anxious for an agreement that he dropped his demand for Irish trade concessions to Northern Ireland. The British abandoned their treaty rights and agreed to a lump sum Irish payment of £10m in place of previous claims for over £100m.
    The deal that safeguarded Ireland

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    Worth pointing out that "Trade Concessions" to NI is a tad misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    Worth pointing out that "Trade Concessions" to NI is a tad misleading.
    What the British wanted was the removal of import duries from NI goods coming into the south. But they seem to have dropped that demand

    All the British asked was that the Irish pay their uncontested debts and remove import duties on goods from Northern Ireland.

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    So was Chamberlain the UK's Brian Cowen or Enda Kenny?
    Regards...jmcc

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    Interesting article thanks - first video underneath is worth watching

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    Quote Originally Posted by parentheses View Post
    What the British wanted was the removal of import duries from NI goods coming into the south. But they seem to have dropped that demand
    Hardly a concession - asking that the 26 would treat imports from NI the same as they treated GB imports and the same way the UK treated imports from the Free state .... But that era has been glossed over. Asking that punitive duties aimed at NI be dropped was not asking for trade concessions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    So was Chamberlain the UK's Brian Cowen or Enda Kenny?
    Chamberlain was supposedly the UK politician who seemed to get on best with de Valera.

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    There is a legitimate argument that with 80% of the Irish industrial base being in NI. that Irish industry (at first) required protection to allow it to develop instead of being swamped by Northern imports. The Unionists wanted the benefits of unity i.e. free trade without the obligations thereof.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    Chamberlain was supposedly the UK politician who seemed to get on best with de Valera.
    Yes Dev seems to have admired Chamerlain. I read somewhere that at the start of the war Dev had a conversatio with the British ambassador where he said Chamberlain had moral right on his side in the battle with Hitler whereas Hitler had forfeited any claims to moral justification. Eventually moral righteousness would act to the benefit of Britain was Devs opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    There is a legitimate argument that with 80% of the Irish industrial base being in NI. that Irish industry (at first) required protection to allow it to develop instead of being swamped by Northern imports. The Unionists wanted the benefits of unity i.e. free trade without the obligations thereof.
    But it was more than that - de Valera admitted that he was using it as a weapon against Unionism and NI.

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