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    Default Solid fuel carbon tax on coal and bricquettes

    To all mainly rural posters I guess who have not resorted to burning the floorboards - the carbon tax is due in on 1 may 2013

    Per tonne briquettes 18.33 + 2.47 vat = 20.80
    Per tonne coal 26.33+3.55 vat = 29.88

    The above will double on 1 May 2014 so spare the floorboards!

    The question that I wondered about for a long time is how is our government justify putting vat(tax) on a tax. This is relevant to vat on duties on motor fuel, alcohol and cigarettes and vat is also charged on vrt in the price of a car.

    Do you know or want to know the tax component of what you buy? The Irish consumer is really a beast of burden i.e. an ass.
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    So they're not putting extra taxes yet on semi-renewable fuels such as wood pellets?

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    no theres a tax on margarine though if its used as a fuel

    I kid you not
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    Is the carbon tax an EU. dirictive, Or a means to genarate tax take, what is the rate per ton in the EU.

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    All carbon taxes are fakey johnnies , they are just tax grabs by governments.Climate change or whatever horseshyte name they want to give it , is one of the best scams for governments to tax the bejaysus out of people.
    Quote Originally Posted by dagenict View Post
    Is the carbon tax an EU. dirictive, Or a means to genarate tax take, what is the rate per ton in the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipp revolution View Post
    no theres a tax on margarine though if its used as a fuel

    I kid you not
    You've got to spread it around I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tipp revolution View Post
    To all mainly rural posters I guess who have not resorted to burning the floorboards - the carbon tax is due in on 1 may 2013

    Per tonne briquettes €18.33 + 2.47 vat = €20.80
    Per tonne coal €26.33+€3.55 vat = €29.88

    The above will double on 1 May 2014 so spare the floorboards!

    The question that I wondered about for a long time is how is our government justify putting vat(tax) on a tax. This is relevant to vat on duties on motor fuel, alcohol and cigarettes and vat is also charged on vrt in the price of a car.

    Do you know or want to know the tax component of what you buy? The Irish consumer is really a beast of burden i.e. an ass.

    I wrote her before on the massive increase on solid fuel stoves sales, since these Carbon levies and increase in Oil & gas has occurred. A salesman of these stoves told me that people are in such dire straits financially, that they are now burning household rubbish in these stoves. He reckons dioxins have increased since this increases on taxes have occurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipp revolution View Post
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    Do you know or want to know the tax component of what you buy? The Irish consumer is really a beast of burden i.e. an ass.
    It should be on the receipt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    It should be on the receipt.
    yes , but is it? Tesco? supervalu?

    or add the tax at the checkout like the states
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    Quote Originally Posted by realistic1 View Post
    I wrote her before on the massive increase on solid fuel stoves sales, since these Carbon levies and increase in Oil & gas has occurred. A salesman of these stoves told me that people are in such dire straits financially, that they are now burning household rubbish in these stoves. He reckons dioxins have increased since this increases on taxes have occurred.

    Your salesman might be a bit dramatic.

    However, I think that rubbish collection should be nationalised (ie taken out of the hands of private operators - it shouldnt be a profit-making venture) and we pay for council bin collection in our....wait for it..... Local Property tax! Copying England I know, but makes sense to me.

    Our local law abiding bogmen will be furious at this tax hike
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