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Thread: Republican organisations reject closed talks with Sinn Féin; opt for public debate

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    Default Republican organisations reject closed talks with Sinn Féin; opt for public debate

    éirígí have become the latest republican organisation to reject closed talks with Sinn Féin.* Declan Kearney, national chairman for provisional Sinn Féin issued the invite to republican groupings as part of an Easter oration this year. Republican Sinn Féin rejected the offer some weeks ago.

    Breandán MacCionnaith of éirígí gave as one of the reasons for his party rejecting such an invite being the attempts of provisional Sinn Féin to label all opponents of their political strategy as dissident republicans. However, in rejecting the offer of bi-lateral closed talks, MacCionnaith instead invited provisional Sinn Féin to engage in public debates with éirígí and other so-called ‘dissidents’ organisations.

    Further reading:

    - irg issue call to Sinn Fin - "Let's have an open, public debate" | irg: For A Socialist Republic
    - Éirígí refuses SF 'common ground' talks - UTV Live News
    - Sinn Féin offer of peace talks spurned by republican dissidents | UK news | guardian.co.uk

    Attendance at ‘dissident’ Easter commemorations seems to have been increasing in recent years north and south.


    *provisional Sinn Féin, to be specific.

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    The increase in 'dissident' numbers is a worry.

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    Mary Lou's sister is in eirgi isnt she? Surely a channel of conversation right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeamusNapoleon View Post
    éirígí have become the latest republican organisation to reject closed talks with Sinn Féin.* Declan Kearney, national chairman for provisional Sinn Féin issued the invite to republican groupings as part of an Easter oration this year. Republican Sinn Féin rejected the offer some weeks ago.

    Breandán MacCionnaith of éirígí gave as one of the reasons for his party rejecting such an invite being the attempts of provisional Sinn Féin to label all opponents of their political strategy as dissident republicans. However, in rejecting the offer of bi-lateral closed talks, MacCionnaith instead invited provisional Sinn Féin to engage in public debates with éirígí and other so-called ‘dissidents’ organisations.

    Further reading:

    - irg issue call to Sinn Fin - "Let's have an open, public debate" | irg: For A Socialist Republic
    - Éirígí refuses SF 'common ground' talks - UTV Live News
    - Sinn Féin offer of peace talks spurned by republican dissidents | UK news | guardian.co.uk

    Attendance at ‘dissident’ Easter commemorations seems to have been increasing in recent years north and south.


    *provisional Sinn Féin, to be specific.
    Why are you now calling them "Provisional Sinn Féin? You just sound daft.

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    The dissidents need to tell us the political strategy that they are pursuring.

    Is it just reactionary towards Sinn fein or do they have a thought out strategy?

    And so far when they have stood for election they have performed poorly, if they have a different credible vision....then let's be hearing what it is.
    Stupidity is far more fascinating than intelligence, after all intelligence has it's limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    Why are you now calling them "Provisional Sinn Féin? You just sound daft.
    I've often referred to them as provisional Sinn Féin. It's not a slight on them, but when another group with the title Sinn Féin are being discussed in the same post, both of them get a prefix so that there is no favouritism on my part.

    It is being balanced, not daft.
    Daft is not understanding nuance when it comes to this issue.

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    Don't debate with them.
    They are only looking for some recognition that they have something to offer and that they have a place in mainstream politics.
    Keep the oxygen from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeamusNapoleon View Post
    Attendance at ‘dissident’ Easter commemorations seems to have been increasing in recent years north and south.
    Certainly wasn't the case in Belfast on Easter Sunday.
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    Provisional Sinn Fein, whose Ard Fheis presumably is held in a phone box beside the skip where Eirigi hold theirs. Insert rolleyes here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Mc Larnon View Post
    Certainly wasn't the case in Belfast on Easter Sunday.
    I wasn’t in the north for easter so I am relying on second-hand information. There were reports of 800 people being in attendance at éirígí’s Belfast parade. In Derry city, 200 people were reported by the Telegraph to have taken part in the 32CSM’s commemoration.

    éirígí held commemorations in Belfast, Dublin, Newry, Kildare, Meath, Offaly, Tipperary, Wicklow and Wexford this year. This is a considerable increase on previous years.

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