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    John Kerry has announced the US will double their aid to the "rebels" in Syria and therefore give them another $123 million dollars. This is on top of all the "aid" the islamists are receiving from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The US are determined to destroy the Syrian state, an ally of Iran and long term opponent of US policy in the Middle East (The Bush adminisatration called Syria part of the axis of evil). However just like in Afghanistan in the 80s they are arming extremist group who will be tomorrow's terrorists. More and more evidence is coming out of Syria that the rebels are increasingly made up of foreign jihadists and many are loyal to Al Queada.

    BBC News - Syria crisis: Al-Nusra pledges allegiance to al-Qaeda

    The Sunnis are represented by local fighters, international jihadists, and regional Sunni states, such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.

    The Alawis control the army and have grassroots support from secularists, heterodox Muslim sects, Christians, leftists, nationalists, and feminists.



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    If countries like the US and Saudi Arabia would stop supplying the terrorists with weapons then this dreadful civil war could end and the killing would stop. The US is playing a cynical geopolitical game to bleed Syria dry and weaken Iran and they don't care who they arm or who gets killed in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honecker View Post
    John Kerry has announced the US will double their aid to the "rebels" in Syria and therefore give them another $123 million dollars.
    What could go wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honecker View Post
    If countries like the US and Saudi Arabia would stop supplying the terrorists with weapons then this dreadful civil war could end and the killing would stop. The US is playing a cynical geopolitical game to bleed Syria dry and weaken Iran and they don't care who they arm or who gets killed in the process.
    The reason the US elites get away with this is because of the ignorance of ordinary US people about US foreign policy.

    The Americans have been using these savage jihadists for decades now and eventually the jihadists bite the hand that feeds them

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    There seems to be an assumption in this thread that all the rebels in Syria are Islamist terrorists, this is clearly not the case. But go ahead and have a rant if you want. Maybe quote a few articles from Russia Today pretending that Assad is doing the world a favor by defending us all from some mad Islamist army sweeping across the area. The best incubators for Islamist terror organisations are totalitarian regimes. The USA made a mistake by staying out of this fight for too long and now the Islamists are on the rise amongst the rebel groups. Kerry's actions may be too little too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parentheses View Post
    The reason the US elites get away with this is because of the ignorance of ordinary US people about US foreign policy.
    It is an ignorance matched only by that of the politicians themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfReason View Post
    There seems to be an assumption in this thread that all the rebels in Syria are Islamist terrorists, this is clearly not the case. But go ahead and have a rant if you want. Maybe quote a few articles from Russia Today pretending that Assad is doing the world a favor by defending us all from some mad Islamist army sweeping across the area. The best incubators for Islamist terror organisations are totalitarian regimes. The USA made a mistake by staying out of this fight for too long and now the Islamists are on the rise amongst the rebel groups. Kerry's actions may be too little too late.
    Like Saudi Arabia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honecker View Post
    John Kerry has announced the US will double their aid to the "rebels" in Syria and therefore give them another $123 million dollars. This is on top of all the "aid" the islamists are receiving from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The US are determined to destroy the Syrian state, an ally of Iran and long term opponent of US policy in the Middle East (The Bush adminisatration called Syria part of the axis of evil). However just like in Afghanistan in the 80s they are arming extremist group who will be tomorrow's terrorists. More and more evidence is coming out of Syria that the rebels are increasingly made up of foreign jihadists and many are loyal to Al Queada.

    BBC News - Syria crisis: Al-Nusra pledges allegiance to al-Qaeda

    The Sunnis are represented by local fighters, international jihadists, and regional Sunni states, such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.

    The Alawis control the army and have grassroots support from secularists, heterodox Muslim sects, Christians, leftists, nationalists, and feminists.



    Syrian Conflict Not a Battle for Democracy | Harvard Extension Blog

    If countries like the US and Saudi Arabia would stop supplying the terrorists with weapons then this dreadful civil war could end and the killing would stop. The US is playing a cynical geopolitical game to bleed Syria dry and weaken Iran and they don't care who they arm or who gets killed in the process.
    The Syrian rebels do not look like terrorists to me ... more like guerrilla fighters who are growing into a regular army, able to take and hold large areas in spite of having no aircraft or artillery.

    If these were just "terrorists" (a few scattered cells) Bashir Asssad would have smashed them like his father did.

    Like all rebel armies the Syrian rebels are a coalition of the less and more extreme, or the less and more Islamic. At the moment matters seem to be finely balanced, with no side having a distinct advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honecker View Post
    Like Saudi Arabia?

    Yes, like Saudi Arabia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honecker View Post
    Like Saudi Arabia?
    Like Syria also?
    In August 2012 Hamas MP and Deputy Speaker Ahmad Bahr appeared on Hamas' Al-Aqsa TV and demanded all Muslims to annihilate the Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfReason View Post
    Yes, like Saudi Arabia.
    Yes Saudi Arabia, the biggest back of the islamist rebellion in Syria

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