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    One interesting fact I had been unaware of is that the networks supporting Chechen wahabi slaughter in Russia overlapped with the network involved in the 9/11 atrocity.

    It seems Zacarias Moussaoui, the so called 20th hijacker who was arrested weeks before 9/11 was a recruiter for Khattab, a main commander in the Chechen war. Khattab was known to be linked to Bin Laden. However FBI commanders refused to do proper searches of Moussaoui's computer and home because at the time, Chechens were not considered "terrorists" by the Americans. Chechen Terrorists and the Neocons by Coleen Rowley -- Antiwar.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by parentheses View Post
    One interesting fact I had been unaware of is that the networks supporting Chechen wahabi slaughter in Russia overlapped with the network involved in the 9/11 atrocity.

    It seems Zacarias Moussaoui, the so called 20th hijacker who was arrested weeks before 9/11 was a recruiter for Khattab, a main commander in the Chechen war. Khattab was known to be linked to Bin Laden. However FBI commanders refused to do proper searches of Moussaoui's computer and home because at the time, Chechens were not considered "terrorists" by the Americans. Chechen Terrorists and the Neocons by Coleen Rowley -- Antiwar.com
    Not sure thats true. The second Chechen war took place in 1999, two years before 9/11. The US had little in the way of interest in Afghanistan for the decade preceeding 9/11, and even less in Chechnya. And prior to 9/11 the US did not percieve Islamists as a serious threat to its national security. A claim now that there was something the US missed, beyond what is already known, is odd. History, unlike Antiwar.com, does not do such handy revisionism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parentheses View Post
    One interesting fact I had been unaware of is that the networks supporting Chechen wahabi slaughter in Russia overlapped with the network involved in the 9/11 atrocity.

    It seems Zacarias Moussaoui, the so called 20th hijacker who was arrested weeks before 9/11 was a recruiter for Khattab, a main commander in the Chechen war. Khattab was known to be linked to Bin Laden. However FBI commanders refused to do proper searches of Moussaoui's computer and home because at the time, Chechens were not considered "terrorists" by the Americans. Chechen Terrorists and the Neocons by Coleen Rowley -- Antiwar.com
    Khattab is actually an Arab. The Russians were butchering the civilian population and flattening the urban centres. The West wouldn't help so the Chechens couldn't afford to be choosy about whose help they accepted against Russia.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Another interesting fact is the UK has been quietly supporting Chechen separatists since the 1780's.

    Also... Thatcher link to Chechens will embarrass UK - News - The Independent

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    Quote Originally Posted by parentheses View Post
    One interesting fact I had been unaware of is that the networks supporting Chechen wahabi slaughter in Russia overlapped with the network involved in the 9/11 atrocity.

    It seems Zacarias Moussaoui, the so called 20th hijacker who was arrested weeks before 9/11 was a recruiter for Khattab, a main commander in the Chechen war. Khattab was known to be linked to Bin Laden. However FBI commanders refused to do proper searches of Moussaoui's computer and home because at the time, Chechens were not considered "terrorists" by the Americans. Chechen Terrorists and the Neocons by Coleen Rowley -- Antiwar.com
    This is a very confused OP. I don't understand the main point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    Another interesting fact is the UK has been quietly supporting Chechen separatists since the 1780's.

    Also... Thatcher link to Chechens will embarrass UK - News - The Independent
    Thanks for that, Seabhcan.

    I was aware from reading this book that the British had a long history of gunrunning to Muslim tribes in the Caucasus. The Crimean War: A History: Orlando Figes: 8589450000003: Amazon.com: Books Indeed the reason why Circassians got expelled from the Caucasus was because Russia could not maintain a fleet in the black sea after the Crimean war and so prevent British gunrunning to the Circassians. Therefore the Russians had to expel the Circassians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raketemensch View Post
    This is a very confused OP. I don't understand the main point.
    It's an attempt to mask the homegrown nature of the Boston attack.
    All great truths begin as blasphemies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raketemensch View Post
    This is a very confused OP. I don't understand the main point.
    The main point is that some of the same people involved in planning 9/11 were also involved in supporting Chechen terrorist networks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parentheses View Post
    The main point is that some of the same people involved in planning 9/11 were also involved in supporting Chechen terrorist networks.
    That's not that surprising. There are Salafists, or more correctly Takfiris in Chechnya too. The are attracted to any type of Islamic related militancy on the basis that they are more likely to find recruits that support their global grievances by exploiting global ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edifice. View Post
    It's an attempt to mask the homegrown nature of the Boston attack.
    ... and an effort to link into FSB cooing about how it was apparently right and the US wrong about the Boston bombers. But if the US were to prosecute everyone the FSB deemed an enemy, then gays, liberals, intellectuals, human rights activists, the Salvation Army and most ordinary Russians would be on the FBI's watch list. To narrow minds that are admiring of totalitarianism, the Tsarnaev brothers provide a link also to how 'right Russia is' in supporting Assads murderous regime, and the Kremlins backward foreign policy in general.

    While the Chechen war may have opened a door to the Islamists in the Caucuses, the Kremlims policy of general repression and human rights abuses in the region has kept Jihadism very much alive there. In fact day by day they are making it worse. If the Kremlin wants to point the finger at who is responsible for ongoing Jihadism in the Caucuses, then it need only look in a mirror.

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