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    Default Islam in Europe.

    Whatever your opinions on Islam and its position in Europe, it seems to be a significant current issue. For a variety of reasons this religion has had regular coverage and debate in the media, among other places on issues surrounding it accross the continent. But why might this be? Could it be that there be a possible Islamification of Europe under way?

    This article Islam Watch - "Islamization of Europe: A theory of the Islamization process in European countries" - by No Sharia certainly seems to think so. It states that there are 8 stages of the existance of Islam in any given country whereas Islam will either come out dominant at the last stage, with horrible consequences or another alternative that is also pretty drastic. (Please note that this article is from 2007). It partly reads:

    '8. Victory for European forces (A), or victory for Islam (B)

    (A) A possible end result of a civil war resulting in a victory for the domestic population will be the total banishment of traditional Islam from a specific country. Widespread emigration/deportation and large scale conversion of Muslims in the country.

    (B) A victory for Islam will allow all the rules of a victorious Islam to be applied. Traditional Islam will substitute for all liberal western versions of Islam that have grown in the country but still lack any real theoretical basis and a real doctrine.

    Massive and nationwide expropriations, slavery of conquered women, continued slaughter of non-Christians and Christians known for opinions opposed to Islam and of moderate Muslims who initially try to protect non-Muslims, murder of minorities e g gays. A Muslim dictatorship without democracy similar to religious dictatorships in the Middle East, is established.

    The sharia laws is the basis for a new constitution and the laws of the country. The institution of dhimmitude is introduced and will regulate the life of Christians and Jews. The rest of the population will slowly be eliminated. The GNP declines successively to less than 50 % of its former level, and an insignificant growth happen only during good years.'
    Could this all be hyperbole? But if this article is valid (which I think it at least has some value), I reckon that Ireland is somewhere between stage one and two. But how might a possible Islamification of Europe play out in years to come with a quickly rising Islamic population?

    The below video explains what has already happened in Lebanon and what could be the start of what is happening in Europe. The article in the link above places Lebanon at stage seven.

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    When people are poor religion plays a significant part in their thinking . In Ireland we were a bastion of Catholicism where until about 30 years ago the church ruled the country. Affluence brings a different way of thinking and even many Muslims know that wealthy Muslims engage in drinking, gambling and whoring when abroad in non Muslim countries. This attitude is similar to what the good Irish Catholics did when they went to the USA and England in search of employment in the 50's. Its only a matter of time before Islam takes over from Christianity as the world's number one faith but when it does it will eventually go down the same road as the religion it succeeded as wealth rules this world and let nobody tell you otherwise.

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    The Islamification of Europe will not happen, a massive war will. Contrary to PC propaganda the Islamic perspective is incapable of supporting a modern society. It doesn't work in Islamic countries, why would it work elsewhere? The problem is the West has abandoned the Faith. This will have consequences, Islam is part of that.

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    Don't care myself as long as they uphold the law in the country of residence and stay away from the local nutter[s] who may try and corrupt their thinking and mind.
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    I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.
    Barbara Lerner Spectre

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    More Islamophobia

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    Thats a load of billix .You are one of those liberal progressives a nasty pisspot that uses minorities to gain a foothold and would jail anyone that disagrees with them if they were in power .
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    More Islamophobia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fractional Reserve View Post
    Thats a load of billix .You are one of those liberal progressives a nasty pisspot that uses minorities to gain a foothold and would jail anyone that disagrees with them if they were in power .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerubbabel View Post
    More Islamophobia
    To have a phobia is to have an irrational fear. First of all you have to prove I have a fear. Please show me? Then if you can do this, prove that this fear is irrational?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenbacks View Post
    Barbara Lerner Spectre
    Whoever she is, she has not got a clue.
    The great, great majority of anti-semitism is coming from fundamental Islamists not Europeans, even a cursory glance at any of the articles throughout Europe clearly show that.
    Unless she is mistaking criticism of Israel for anti-semitism, which in 99% of cases it is not (when from Europeans).

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