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Thread: LRC report calls for reform of jury service system - is this wise?

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    Default LRC report calls for reform of jury service system - is this wise?

    I am a bit surprised no one has started a thread on this already as it proposes to overturn one of the most fundamental rights of the Citizen

    - the Right to be judged by ones Peers

    - namely one's fellow Irish Citizens

    It said allowing EU citizens and those who have been resident in Ireland for at least five years would make around 200,000 extra people available for jury duty.

    I take it that no opinion poll let alone Referendum will take place before this is quietly brought in....?

    However while personally object to being judged in my own Country by those who are not my fellow Citizens there are also some very important and worrying aspects to allowing people to be part of a Jury who are not fully aware of all the nuances and the vernacular of the people they are being asked to judge

    This is something that in my heart the majority of Irish People would not want to see

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/commi...vice-1.1360220
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    I think its a great idea, why would some one who has lived here more than 5 years who is registered to vote, be unfit to sit on a jury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobhguy View Post
    I think its a great idea, why would some one who has lived here more than 5 years who is registered to vote, be unfit to sit on a jury.
    Non citizens have very limited voting rights.

    Bad decision IMO.
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    With the increasing number of "new Irish" this is necessary if people are to be judged by a jury of their peers.

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    The key to getting off jury duty is to inform the judge that you are prejudiced against all races.

    Which, in my case, is the absolute truth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobhguy View Post
    I think its a great idea, why would some one who has lived here more than 5 years who is registered to vote, be unfit to sit on a jury.
    You have to be Citizen of Ireland or the UK to vote in General elections

    Only Irish Citizens can vote in Referendums

    Non Citizens otherwise can only vote in local elections
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    One wonders what criteria will be used to decide the level of competency of Foreign Nationals in their ability to fully understand a Trial conducted here?

    Also if this right is extended to FNs will the Government sign reciprocal Agreements with other States to ensure that this right is extended to our Citizens in their Countries?

    Didn't think so either....
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    It would be a bad idea to remove the exemption of teachers, doctors and nurses from jury service, given the present state of the public services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
    It would be a bad idea to remove the exemption of teachers, doctors and nurses from jury service, given the present state of the public services.
    Teachers are not exempt.

    I have been called on many occasions.

    University lecturers I think, are exempt

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