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Thread: Shinners, not really sure Dissos are all that bad

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    Default Shinners, not really sure Dissos are all that bad

    Interesting poll done by the BT at the SF conference in Mayo, showing the leadership is pretty out of touch with the grass roots and that the traditional view of a "United Ireland" seems pretty blurry thesedays

    Party members were asked if an armed campaign was justified while British rule remained. Some 26pc agreed it was, while only 66pc disagreed.
    That's actually pretty good I'd have thought, just 26% of Shinners think force is justifiable, but then it's somewhat contradicted by:

    Only 12pc agreed with the North's Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness's statement that the dissidents were "traitors to Ireland", while 72pc disagreed.
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    ut just over a third of delegates (34pc) believed that violent dissidents were criminals and a majority (58pc) regarded them as political offenders.
    Quarter of Sinn Fein members still back terrorist groups against British - Independent.ie

    kinda at odds with the fluffy peace and harmony yet confused gibberish we get around this forum..
    What have British in Ireland contributed to Ireland? Nothing of the scale that the Irish have contributed to Britain. - Runswithwind.

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    Any corresponding polls to the general public so we can make an analysis of the SF result?
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Any corresponding polls to the general public so we can make an analysis of the SF result?
    The subject was SF members, so not sure what relevance the general publics opinion has?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schomberg View Post
    The subject was SF members, so not sure what relevance the general publics opinion has?
    Well, for example, the title says ''Shinners, not really sure..'' which is technically correct but some figures from the general public would highlight whether or not ''shinners'' are outliers in this area and thus would promote debate on the issue, rather than dealing with pretty arbitrary figures.
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    What relevance?

    it might tell us if SF is in tune with public opinion.

    but if its just a another troll thread- perhaps its not relevant.

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    The armed campaign was fully justified.

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    Btw, the mods should change the deliberately provocative trolling thread title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schomberg View Post
    Interesting poll done by the BT at the SF conference in Mayo, showing the leadership is pretty out of touch with the grass roots and that the traditional view of a "United Ireland" seems pretty blurry these days

    kinda at odds with the fluffy peace and harmony yet confused gibberish we get around this forum..
    If you attend a party ard Feis / conference you are more likely to be hardline / grass roots.

    I'd imagine a poll of FG attendees on church/state and "morality" issues would be to the right of Genghis Khan, and a Poll if FF would place no blame whatsoever on Brian Lenihan and the congested Taoiseach .

    As a liberal FG member , I find the Catholic right rump of the party very disturbing, and off-putting, I'd like to think the "soft" SF vote might feel the same if they read this..

    They haven't gone away , you know....

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    The snap survey of 50 members

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    The armed campaign was fully justified.
    yer bum and buttermilk.

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