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    Default Gories: German Euroskeps & Tory Euroskeps "in hush hush deal behind Merko's back!"

    David Cameron arrived in Germany for talks with Angela Merkel on Friday evening as his Conservative allies planned a secret deal with German Eurosceptics backing his bid to loosen Britain's European Union membership.
    Talks between the Tories and the new Alternative fuer Deutschland (AfD), an anti-euro party, came to light as the Prime Minister and his family flew to Germany as the personal guests of the Chancellor at the castle of Meseberg, her country retreat.


    Tories build secret alliance with Eurosceptics behind Merkel's back - Telegraph

    This new G-Kip Party has only started so it's difficult to gauge how much could be made from all of this.

    However the Germans are getting angrier with each new EZ Country falling into a Bailout Program.

    Could we be witnessing the seeds being sown of a new EU or even the end of the EU via Brexit?

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    I assume which ever Tory leaked this did not have Cameron's best interests at heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windowshopper View Post
    I assume which ever Tory leaked this did not have Cameron's best interests at heart.
    There's certainly a hope among some tories that Cameron gets nothing, and the vote becomes a straight in-out.

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    The more bailouts between now & the vote - the more likely Brexit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dublin 4 View Post
    The more bailouts between now & the vote - the more likely Brexit.
    Why? The UK doesnt contribute to the bailouts.

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    The Bailouts make Europe look like a circus




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dublin 4 View Post


    Tories build secret alliance with Eurosceptics behind Merkel's back - Telegraph

    This new G-Kip Party has only started so it's difficult to gauge how much could be made from all of this.

    However the Germans are getting angrier with each new EZ Country falling into a Bailout Program.

    Could we be witnessing the seeds being sown of a new EU or even the end of the EU via Brexit?
    Trying to undermine the German chancellor's position coming up to an election is not an intelligent idea.

    Cameron and the tory's need to wake up and fast, otherwise someone like Merkel might call there bluff and support Britain having an all in or all out referendum. That would tear apart UK industry due to uncertainty and cause the City of London financial sector to up sticks and leave.

    The Tory's seem like they are trying to defuse a napalm bomb with a flamethrower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesiscorporation View Post
    Cameron and the tory's need to wake up and fast, otherwise someone like Merkel might call there bluff and support Britain having an all in or all out referendum. That would tear apart UK industry due to uncertainty and cause the City of London financial sector to up sticks and leave.
    I would *love* to see that happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    I would *love* to see that happen.
    You would.

    Are you insane?

    Do you hate the Irish that much?

    10's of thousands of Irish jobs depend upon back room service jobs and exports to the UK, if not a few hundred thousand.

    If the UK economy falls apart because the City of London up sticks and leaves, followed by a serious drop in the pound, then Ireland will not be exporting as much to the UK and the IFSC more or less empties as the UK banks will no longer be there, then expect to see Ireland having even bigger problems than now.

    The farming industry would be hammered in a situation like that because they would be getting substantially less for food exports in the UK.

    The knock on effects across Irish industry would be horrific. Ireland would be in a situation similar to when De Valera decided to act the idiot with the UK over exports and imports.

    If the UK has a referendum about EU membership and decides to leave it, then Ireland will suffer, due to Irish business not opening up new markets outside England.

    Ireland would be hammered by the UK leaving the EU.

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    On how the said AFD could do.
    A representative opinion poll conducted in April by Infratest dimap determined that 24% of the German electorate may vote for the Alternative for Germany in the upcoming general election. The results of the poll were as follows: certainly yes 7%, possibly yes 17%, possibly no 15%, certainly no 59%. The party is particularly successful in Eastern Germany (27%), with women (27%), the less educated (33%), and the young (36%). The party draws support from across the political spectrum: Die Linke (29%), SPD (21%), Greens (14%), CDU/CSU (19%), and is particularly successful with voters of small parties (46%), non-voters (31%), and the undecided (32%).[12]
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