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    Default More stupidity from Ireland's "true" government

    An ongoing security alert is in place in Derry City after two men were arrested after being stopped by the police. A suspicious device is said to have been found. What is wrong with these people. Obviously it is the work of dissident republicans. Can they not see such acts only make it harder for mainstream republicans and nationalists to further their goals of greening NI, introducing pro Irish policies and ultimately bringing about a UI? Stupid.

    Two arrested in Derry after device found - RTÉ News

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    You are all traitors to the true ireland

    If you think like that you can justify anything
    have you met a loyalist Suggesting they really should become part of a united ireland would be like suggesting a space marine has sweaty man sex with an an Orc.

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    Thank God those headers who declare allegiance to an oath sworn in a haggard in the 1920's are reeking with informers and well done to the PSNI for their actions. Who knows what misery has been averted by their actions.

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    @Ren84,

    I trust you think that murder is wrong, whether or not it harms the cause of a united Ireland - that life is more fundamental than the demarcation of border between two similar, democratic jurisdictions.

    May I suggest you modify your OP slightly to reflect this? Otherwise, it is possible to make an uncharitable reading of OP, interpreting it as saying that the main problem with Dissident killings is that they harm the cause of a united Ireland. No, to me the main problem with Dissident killings are the deaths themselves, together with the danger that they lead to more killings in retaliation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    An ongoing security alert is in place in Derry City after two men were arrested after being stopped by the police. A suspicious device is said to have been found. What is wrong with these people. Obviously it is the work of dissident republicans. Can they not see such acts only make it harder for mainstream republicans and nationalists to further their goals of greening NI, introducing pro Irish policies and ultimately bringing about a UI? Stupid.

    Two arrested in Derry after device found - RTÉ News
    Dissident republicanism never really focuses on public opinion, the priority is Brits out first (then presumably everything will be coming up roses and everyone will live happily ever after... ). Not a lot of things are thought through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drogheda445 View Post
    Dissident republicanism never really focuses on public opinion, the priority is Brits out first (then presumably everything will be coming up roses and everyone will live happily ever after... ). Not a lot of things are thought through.
    Irish republicanism is dissident. SF are just nationalists these days having given up on republicanism but don't like to admit they were wrong for all those violent years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle Ray View Post
    Irish republicanism is dissident. SF are just nationalists these days having given up on republicanism but don't like to admit they were wrong for all those violent years.


    Change the record ya sad git.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drogheda445 View Post
    Dissident republicanism never really focuses on public opinion, the priority is Brits out first (then presumably everything will be coming up roses and everyone will live happily ever after... ). Not a lot of things are thought through.
    Imagine they succeeded? Sh1t! Sure the Brits would be gone but then the loons would want a seat at the government table!

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    I agree with the general sentiment of your post. However..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    Can they not see such acts only make it harder for mainstream republicans and nationalists to further their goals of greening NI....
    The long term effect of 'greening' in the six counties would be catastrophic with regards Irish unity. Dressing a british controlled statelet up in Irish garments would do little more than divert a substantial amount of the nationalist community away from the reality of the situation.

    The greening of the six counties would achieve more for normalisation than it would ever be capable of for the cause of unity. It's certainly not something that will further republican aspirations, it's a hindrance if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle Ray View Post
    Irish republicanism is dissident. SF are just nationalists these days having given up on republicanism but don't like to admit they were wrong for all those violent years.
    Quote Originally Posted by Castle Ray View Post
    Irish republicanism is dissident. SF are just nationalists these days having given up on republicanism but don't like to admit they were wrong for all those violent years.
    You might think by SF's renouncement of violence that they are admitting that the violence was all in vain. However, they don't hold this view.

    Their view is slightly more nuanced. They believe that violence of the past was necessary and it brought them as far as it has but it's now time for a purely political approach.

    I know, sad, but there ya go!

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