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    Apparently not according to their Chief Rabbi, echoing previous comments by former EU Commissioner Fritz Bolkenstein.

    Or consider what has just happened. A Turkish-Dutch researcher publicized systematic anti-Semitism among other Muslims in the Netherlands, including a dramatic video that showed teenage boys calling for genocide and praising Hitler.

    What happened? The researcher, Mehmet Sahin, had to go into hiding after being accused by others of being a Jew and a Zionist....

    Last year, the chief rabbi of the Netherlands spoke in a published interview in which he spoke extensively about his love for the country, the good treatment of Jews there, and other such points. Asked at the end, however, whether there was any future for Jews in the country he said, “No,” and advised the community to move to Israel...

    Here’s the bottom line: Given the fact that this hatred is endemic among Dutch Muslims; and given the fact that their proportion and influence in the country is increasing; and given the fact that there are literally no countervailing forces, is this viewpoint going to increase or decrease? Obviously, the former.
    Similarly, in Denmark and Sweden it seems that the middle eastern conflict and tensions are being carried into those societies.

    At a recent government-sponsored “multicultural festival” in N°rrebro, intended to promote cultural “diversity,” a Jewish group was barred from displaying the Israeli flag. TaskForce Inclusion, one of the Orwellian-named organizers of the event, claimed that the measure was taken as a “safety precaution” (a precaution that applied, it seems, only to Jewish groups and a tacit admission that the mere sight of a Star of David would drive certain other attendees into spasms of violence). One government official later said that, initially, the Jewish group was to be completely excluded for fear of offending Muslim participants.

    “We have to face the reality,” said Krasnik. Anti-Semitism is “an import of the Middle Eastern conflict to Copenhagen.” “Multiculturalism is simply not working as an ideology,” he said, pointing out that the immigrant ghetto of Mj°lnerparken—where, according to 2003 census data, 92 percent of its residents were from “non-Western” backgrounds—has emerged as a “parallel society,” one that has little in common with the world he inhabits.
    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news...n-copenhagen/2

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    Maybe the Chief Rabbi hasn't been keeping up with current events but there are millions of Muslims living in Israel and the lands controlled by Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi019 View Post
    Apparently not according to their Chief Rabbi, echoing previous comments by former EU Commissioner Fritz Bolkenstein.

    Similarly, in Denmark and Sweden it seems that the middle eastern conflict and tensions are being carried into those societies.

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news...n-copenhagen/2
    Just down the railway from me in Malm÷, Jews are being systematically forced out of there homes. There is unofficial approval from the people running Malm÷ city. The situation in Malm÷ looks like being played out all over Europe.

    In Copenhagen it is nowhere near as bad for jews as it is in Malm÷, but it is escalating rapidly in Copenhagen.

    The police know full well who is behind this and so does everyone else. They make no attempt to hide what they are doing and boast about it openly. The fact this wat is in effect a pogrom against jews is being allowed to continue, is insane, in my opinion.

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    Post 2! FFS! Post 2!
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    Quote Originally Posted by baalthor View Post
    Maybe the Chief Rabbi hasn't been keeping up with current events but there are millions of Muslims living in Israel and the lands controlled by Israel.
    There are millions of Jews living there too.

    Any sensible person would seek a peaceful solution whereby Jews and Muslims in the Middle East can live side by side in either two state or one state or whatever and where ethnic, religious, political and territorial disputes are solved without bloodshed.

    The conflict in the Middle East does not justify hatred and bigotry toward Jews in the Netherlands by Muslim new comers. Both Jews and Muslims are entitled to live in the Netherlands too.

    It is revolting that anti-Jewish hatred is rife 70 years after the Holocaust.

    The two most famous Jews associated with the Netherlands are Spinoza, the philosopher who coined the phrase Cogito Ergo Sum or "I think therefore I am, " a key insight that spurred the Enlightenment and the development of liberal Western thought and of course Anne Frank, the German Jewish girl who kept a diary while she and her family hid in vain from the Nazi round up of Jews.

    Whether it is supernatural or otherwise the evil spirit of anti-semitism still persists despite the horrors of Auschwitz having been exposed to the world.

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    I can not believe it, the promotion of open-borders by supremacists like Straw, Celler, Shatter, Sarkozy(all co-ethnics) could backfire! Oh - what a tragedy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    There are millions of Jews living there too.

    Any sensible person would seek a peaceful solution whereby Jews and Muslims in the Middle East can live side by side in either two state or one state or whatever and where ethnic, religious, political and territorial disputes are solved without bloodshed.

    The conflict in the Middle East does not justify hatred and bigotry toward Jews in the Netherlands by Muslim new comers. Both Jews and Muslims are entitled to live in the Netherlands too.

    It is revolting that anti-Jewish hatred is rife 70 years after the Holocaust.

    The two most famous Jews associated with the Netherlands are Spinoza, the philosopher who coined the phrase Cogito Ergo Sum or "I think therefore I am, " a key insight that spurred the Enlightenment and the development of liberal Western thought and of course Anne Frank, the German Jewish girl who kept a diary while she and her family hid in vain from the Nazi round up of Jews.

    Whether it is supernatural or otherwise the evil spirit of anti-semitism still persists despite the horrors of Auschwitz having been exposed to the world.
    Errrr, Descartes coined the "cogito ergo sum" thing.

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    Prejudice based on choice of skyfairy is an obscenity in my book. Also a sad reminder of how history has that unfortunate knack of repeating itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Quirell View Post
    Errrr, Descartes coined the "cogito ergo sum" thing.
    Oh sorry. My bad.

    Descartes was Jewish and at the time Amsterdam had a thriving Jewish community with a rich intellectual culture
    Indeed anywhere Jews went and settled in Europe they did well despite adverse conditions, persecutions and cruelty from non-Jews.
    By necessity Jews had to study harder and worker hard and be more inventive to survive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi019 View Post
    Apparently not according to their Chief Rabbi, echoing previous comments by former EU Commissioner Fritz Bolkenstein.



    Similarly, in Denmark and Sweden it seems that the middle eastern conflict and tensions are being carried into those societies.



    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news...n-copenhagen/2
    Quote Originally Posted by Des Quirell View Post
    Errrr, Descartes coined the "cogito ergo sum" thing.
    Spinoza was excommunicated for heresy and lived a modest life of exclusion and ignominy.
    "No." - Rosa Parks

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