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    Default Ex Equality Authority head upset that Croke Park II doesn't ensure equality of outcome

    Niall Crowley the former fiddly fingered quangocrat hasn't gone away, indeed he is trying to foment opposition to Croke Park II. He correctly notes that

    1) Croke Park II diminishes some childcare friendly flexible work practices
    2) Incidentally that more women than men engage in work and child care

    He combines 1&2 and claims Croke Park II is opressive to Women's Rights !

    This type of faulty thinking/rhetoric is really annoying and hampers debate of childcare issues etc !

    Croke Park plans 'could force women to quit jobs' - RTÉ News

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Niall Crowley the former fiddly fingered quangocrat hasn't gone away, indeed he is trying to foment opposition to Croke Park II. He correctly notes that

    1) Croke Park II diminishes some childcare friendly flexible work practices
    2) Incidentally that more women than men engage in work and child care

    He combines 1&2 and claims Croke Park II is opressive to Women's Rights !

    This type of faulty thinking/rhetoric is really annoying and hampers debate of childcare issues etc !

    Croke Park plans 'could force women to quit jobs' - RTÉ News

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    In what way is his thinking faulty?
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    Without flexi-time many parents would not have time to make breakfasts for their kids, pick them up after work and make sure they do their homework and so on. There would be no family home life at all. Paying for child minders is increasingly beyond the means of many people now. So who is going to rear and look after the kids? Either the mother or father would be forced to give up work to rear and look after the children and in the majority of cases it will inevitably be the mother.

    We would be effectively be back to the situation that existed before the early seventies where women gave up their jobs when they got married and had kids.

    A major cause of economic growth across the developed world in the later half of the 20th century was working mothers who balanced motherhood with a career.

    Making it hard for women to work and also have family will kill the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    Without flexi-time many parents would not have time to make breakfasts for their kids, pick them up after work and make sure they do their homework and so on. There would be no family home life at all. Paying for child minders is increasingly beyond the means of many people now. So who is going to rear and look after the kids? Either the mother or father would be forced to give up work to rear and look after the children and in the majority of cases it will inevitably be the mother.

    We would be effectively be back to the situation that existed before the early seventies where women gave up their jobs when they got married and had kids.

    A major cause of economic growth across the developed world in the later half of the 20th century was working mothers who balanced motherhood with a career.

    Making it hard for women to work and also have family will kill the economy.
    it also doubled the prices of houses....as two salaries went into the mortgage affordability calculation rather than one.
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    This is not a communist country OP. "Equality" is an expensive lie. Non existent. We are not all equal. Some are just better than others. Darwin etc. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    Without flexi-time many parents would not have time to make breakfasts for their kids, pick them up after work and make sure they do their homework and so on. There would be no family home life at all. Paying for child minders is increasingly beyond the means of many people now. So who is going to rear and look after the kids? Either the mother or father would be forced to give up work to rear and look after the children and in the majority of cases it will inevitably be the mother.

    We would be effectively be back to the situation that existed before the early seventies where women gave up their jobs when they got married and had kids.

    A major cause of economic growth across the developed world in the later half of the 20th century was working mothers who balanced motherhood with a career.

    Making it hard for women to work and also have family will kill the economy.
    That is what it is all about, the government want to make it increasingly difficult to balance work/life arrangements (wait for the abuse that that term will generate here) in the hope that workers (and in particular women) will stay at home. The proposed reduction in availing of flexi time to take time off which is often used for family related issues is a case in point.
    The government are selling the CPA2 on the basis that it is not reducing the basic pay of those earning less than 65k however the working week will increase by between 2- 4 hours per week. This is a big issue for low paid PS with families as it will result in increased child minding costs of approx €25- €35 pw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Niall Crowley the former fiddly fingered quangocrat hasn't gone away, indeed he is trying to foment opposition to Croke Park II. He correctly notes that

    1) Croke Park II diminishes some childcare friendly flexible work practices
    2) Incidentally that more women than men engage in work and child care

    He combines 1&2 and claims Croke Park II is opressive to Women's Rights !

    This type of faulty thinking/rhetoric is really annoying and hampers debate of childcare issues etc !

    Croke Park plans 'could force women to quit jobs' - RTÉ News

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    The link doesn't include any detail on how the changes to work practices would affect working mothers so other than the headline (and that the report was commissioned by the unions opposed to CP2) hard to come to any conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Niall Crowley ...
    I stopped reading right there. The public face of the busy body middle class social engineering crowd. Getting rid of him was one thing FF and the Greens got right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Niall Crowley the former fiddly fingered quangocrat hasn't gone away, indeed he is trying to foment opposition to Croke Park II. He correctly notes that
    Perhaps if the government abolished all quangoes and took the money and pensions back from quango parasites then it might be doing something right. No doubt FLab Vinnie will have him on the Vincent Browne show along with other quangoites to emote about the plight of the unequalised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    Without flexi-time many parents would not have time to make breakfasts for their kids, pick them up after work and make sure they do their homework and so on. There would be no family home life at all. Paying for child minders is increasingly beyond the means of many people now. So who is going to rear and look after the kids? Either the mother or father would be forced to give up work to rear and look after the children and in the majority of cases it will inevitably be the mother.

    We would be effectively be back to the situation that existed before the early seventies where women gave up their jobs when they got married and had kids.

    A major cause of economic growth across the developed world in the later half of the 20th century was working mothers who balanced motherhood with a career.

    Making it hard for women to work and also have family will kill the economy.
    Yes when a couple have children, one of them some times has to give up their job to look after them and its normally the person who earns the least amount. Makes economic sense.

    From my own experience and from what i can see around me, women generally marry men who have a greater income than them. Its a fact most women step up not down when they marry hence why they end up being the one who has to give up there job. No other reason. Most men would happily stay home if there wife earned more than them.

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