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A recent thread here on politics.ie has got me thinking. Dangerous I know.
I believe the present economic situation and how it is progressing, is starting to create dangerous fascistic undertones in left of center, center and right of center politics all across Europe. The comments being left online are in general becoming more militant, in all ways.
In the last few serious recessions, banks were looked after for a year or two and during that period the banks made a lot of money due to large transfers of wealth from the many to the few. However governments quickly woke up and worked on long term ways to stimulate the economy and begin the process of ending the ending the recession, building up economy and reducing social unrest. This time things are different as the transfer of wealth from the many to the few is still continuing so long after the present economic crisis begun. We have literally entered a prolonged period of disaster and vulture capitalism, in which the followers of Milton Freidmann and Ayn Rand have reaped enormous wealth at the expense of society itself.
Due to the present economic situation there are numerous people looking for perfect solutions, quick fixes and what appear to be utopian ideals.
I had a conversation with a Swedish neighbour about a month ago, who seemed to be advocating an Utopian society that is eerily similar to that depicted in the book Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein, even though he has not read the book itself. The movie is a very watered down, wishy washy representation of what is depicted in the book. Don't get me wrong, I think that Starship Troopers is a brilliant book and recommend it to a lot of people. However it is an Utopian Ideal which not only would not work as a society, but anyone seriously wanting a society like that, would need to be completely insane, in my opinion.
I have noticed the growing surge in support amongst people for new strong leaders, all over Europe. That worries me, as I know European history quite well. At first it was in South-East Europe, but have noticed the slight rise in support for that form of leadership in central and now Northern Europe.
In Greece going by its history I would expect them to be upsetting the apple cart. They go through a cycle every 30 to 40 years in which they have a revolution and default on there debts. They are a couple of years overdue on that, so I would not be to concerned if that happened in Greece. Even if there was not a crisis in the Eurozone, I would not be in the slightest suprised, if Greece defaulted and had a crisis today anyway.
However the drug of strong leadership seems to be rising in circulation in central Europe, which would concern me. Central European countries know how to have a war and have a history of bloodshed that should scare anyone, if they even give a hint of heading towards fascism.
In Hungary there is a slow drive towards fascism. It is not as fast as some commentators are claiming, but it has taken the first few baby steps in that direction. Fortunately every European country is still quite far away from real fascism, not the imagined fascism of various commentators, who scream fasist or nazi, at the slightest hint of anything.
That brings me to another very serious point.
Today I see various idiots calling people fascist, commie and nazi just because they have a different point of view and sometimes a narrow minded or even a bigoted point of view.
Just because someone is reactionary, bigoted does not like a particular group or has strong nationalistic beliefs, does not make them a nazi. A nazi had a level of hatred of certain groups, belief in cultural dominance and a belief that they were superior over all others, to the point they would have thought nothing of exterminating entire groups in society or even erasing the existance of a country and its people.
Fortunately even the most far right groups we have in society today are far removed from nazism, but if those groups got power, they would probably think it a brilliant idea to emulate the nazi's, as some sort of cool thing to do, not realising the true horror's, until it was far to late and found themselves first in the queue for the gas chambers. Nazi's had no toleration of the existance of anyone who was alcoholic, had a beer belly, was not physically perfect or close to it, above a certain height, of a certain facial structure, etc and basically intended to exterminate anyone not fitting their ideals. Most of the armchair fascistic and nazi style commentators on the internet today, would go to a gas chamber and then up a chimney, in a nazi regime. A fact which none of them seem to understand in any capacity and that they all appear to be in denial off.
Basically what I am trying to say is this.
I read a lot of science fiction books about Utopian societies. Some of the ideas I find fascinating and even cherry pick some ideas from. However I do know what a Utopian society is, a nightmare of the worst kind, as in real. Nazi Germany, Trajan's Roman Empire, Mohammad's Islamic-Arabic conquered areas, Mao's China, Pol Pot's Cambodia and Stalin's USSR were Utopian Societies, in which tens of millions if not more, died at the whims of insane leaders.
Utopian societies belong in Science Fiction, where they can be discussed as purely imaginery and not in real life, where they are lethal to most in society.
Anyone aiming to have a Utopian society in reality is insane and on a murderous path to genocide.
Just my opinion, whats yours?