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    With the Traditional Right having brought the country to a state of chasis, and the Labour Party discredited, one would have been forgiven for thinking that the space is wide open for a credible force on the Irish left. The success of Syriza shows how compelling these arguments can be during a time of widespread suffering, when the radical sectors of the Left co-operate, and for a time it looked the the ULA could provide this space. The SP and the SWP finally putting aside their petty squabbling for the greater cause, joined by the WUAG could have provided the basis of a "new mass workers party" that each of these groups constantly prattle on about an urgent need for...

    So why didn't it happen? As things stand the ULA lies in flames - wracked with infighting, the SP and the WUAG having deserted it. At best, it will continue on as yet another front group for the SWP, who remain inside it. As per so often with the far-left, defeat was snatched from the jaws of a possible victory - it is conceivable that such a party could have given the Labour Party a run for its money in the next election.

    The question is how it ended up at this point, with a country crying out for a legitimate left. What was the basis for the arguments that destroyed the ULA and why couldn't they be resolved? Surely it must have been more substancial than "We think Trotsky actually said X in 1918, splitter!" sort of stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned Irishman View Post
    With the Traditional Right having brought the country to a state of chasis, and the Labour Party discredited, one would have been forgiven for thinking that the space is wide open for a credible force on the Irish left. The success of Syriza shows how compelling these arguments can be during a time of widespread suffering, when the radical sectors of the Left co-operate, and for a time it looked the the ULA could provide this space. The SP and the SWP finally putting aside their petty squabbling for the greater cause, joined by the WUAG could have provided the basis of a "new mass workers party" that each of these groups constantly prattle on about an urgent need for...

    So why didn't it happen? As things stand the ULA lies in flames - wracked with infighting, the SP and the WUAG having deserted it. At best, it will continue on as yet another front group for the SWP, who remain inside it. As per so often with the far-left, defeat was snatched from the jaws of a possible victory - it is conceivable that such a party could have given the Labour Party a run for its money in the next election.

    The question is how it ended up at this point, with a country crying out for a legitimate left. What was the basis for the arguments that destroyed the ULA and why couldn't they be resolved? Surely it must have been more substancial than "We think Trotsky actually said X in 1918, splitter!" sort of stuff...
    None of these are actually Left wing Parties IMO

    -in that the well being of the Irish Working Class are their Primary concern
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    ULA 1% you mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer View Post
    ULA 1% you mean
    What do you mean by that?

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    Socialists always get ahead of themselves when they win a few extra votes.

    So they start a row about who gets the Ministry of Defence and the Ministry of Finance and what emblem will be on the headed notepaper, the design of the uniforms of the Praetorian Guard, their strategy for defeating the United States and their plans for first contact with the Romulans.

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    ULA support is at <1%

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    Would the Dublin lock-out have left a sour taste in the mouths of the working poor, that they are now middle of road and have no real interest in politics? Just a theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlanetBertie View Post
    Would the Dublin lock-out have left a sour taste in the mouths of the working poor, that they are now middle of road and have no real interest in politics? Just a theory.
    Dunno but anyone who votes for these comedians clearly has no interest in politics anyway.
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    FFS the socialist party aren't even members !!!!

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    it will continue on as yet another front group for the SWP, who remain inside it.
    There's your problem.

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