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    With Scotland likely to gain further powers over the next few years regardless of the independence vote what prospects are there for the Northern Ireland Executive to gain similar powers? Could there exist a possibility of NI gaining Devo Max status with the UK just responsible for defence and foreign affairs? Or more likely should Stormont have, at the least, broader tax raising and spending powers, with increased powers in other areas like internal security, broadcasting (changing BBC NI to NIBC), welfare and the coastguard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    With Scotland likely to gain further powers over the next few years regardless of the independence vote what prospects are there for the Northern Ireland Executive to gain similar powers? Could there exist a possibility of NI gaining Devo Max status with the US just responsible for defence and foreign affairs? Or more likely should Stormont have, at the least, broader tax raising and spending powers, with increased powers in other areas like internal security, broadcasting (changing BBC NI to NIBC), welfare and the coastguard?
    What has the "US" got to do with it?

    The Scots are getting no more devolved powers,that was Camerons part of the deal to allow the referendum.

    Stormont have plenty of "autonomy" regarding spending,however as they need more money than they generate,the rest of your point is moot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    With Scotland likely to gain further powers over the next few years regardless of the independence vote what prospects are there for the Northern Ireland Executive to gain similar powers? Could there exist a possibility of NI gaining Devo Max status with the US just responsible for defence and foreign affairs? Or more likely should Stormont have, at the least, broader tax raising and spending powers, with increased powers in other areas like internal security, broadcasting (changing BBC NI to NIBC), welfare and the coastguard?
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    Oops. Meant to be the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    With Scotland likely to gain further powers over the next few years regardless of the independence vote what prospects are there for the Northern Ireland Executive to gain similar powers? Could there exist a possibility of NI gaining Devo Max status with the UK just responsible for defence and foreign affairs? Or more likely should Stormont have, at the least, broader tax raising and spending powers, with increased powers in other areas like internal security, broadcasting (changing BBC NI to NIBC), welfare and the coastguard?
    Yes to all that.

    People who reject the power to shape their own lives are very, very, very strange indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DT123 View Post
    What has the "US" got to do with it?

    The Scots are getting no more devolved powers,that was Camerons part of the deal to allow the referendum.

    Stormont have plenty of "autonomy" regarding spending,however as they need more money than they generate,the rest of your point is moot.
    Corrected.

    There is an expectation on all sides of the independence debate that regardless of the vote Scotland will be granted more powers. Cameron has acknowledged this. Even pro union parties support increased powers for Scotland. I'm just curious though why wouldn't unionists not support increased powers for their province/country/entity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT123 View Post
    What has the "US" got to do with it?
    The Scots are getting no more devolved powers,that was Camerons part of the deal to allow the referendum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsideImDancing View Post
    Yes to all that.

    People who reject the power to shape their own lives are very, very, very strange indeed.
    The biggest demands for increased transfers of powers from Westminster to Stormont appear to be from Nationalists. I'm not sure why this would be a sectarian issue. Surely everyone in NI would appreciate greater control over their lives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    The biggest demands for increased transfers of powers from Westminster to Stormont appear to be from Nationalists. I'm not sure why this would be a sectarian issue. Surely everyone in NI would appreciate greater control over their lives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DT123 View Post
    What has the "US" got to do with it?

    The Scots are getting no more devolved powers,that was Camerons part of the deal to allow the referendum.

    Stormont have plenty of "autonomy" regarding spending,however as they need more money than they generate,the rest of your point is moot.
    The referendum will fail but in 5 years time they'll have a devo max referendum which will inevitably lead to independence.
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