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    The way asylum seekers get treated in Ireland is disgraceful.

    They only get €19.10 a week! The children get less. They are kept in direct provision i.e. marginalised for several years before a decision on whether to grant them citizenship is made.

    While I accept the argument that if they were to get the full standard welfare rate as asylum seekers that this would entice many more to come here I still think that they should still be getting a lot more than €19.10 a week. A more humane welfare rate should come in which at the same time wouldn't be the full welfare rate. Is this being looked at?

    We have less than 5,000 asylum seekers in Ireland. Their asylum process should be quickened to less than a year. All those who are escaping persecution should be allowed stay. OF COURSE for the simple minded of you we cannot let in tens of thousands of them in a few short years, and in the event of letting in many more a debate would be had on a quota every year. But as of now we only have less than 5,000. The cost to give them a decent allowance would be very small. So what if we had 10,000 in a few years in the event of them getting a fairer allowance? The asylum process is strict- it does take years- only the families and individuals who are genuine will get in generally.

    Inhumane asylum-seeker system needs radical reform - Social Affairs & News from Ireland & Abroad | The Irish Times - Sat, Mar 23, 2013

    Right to attend college urged for asylum-seekers aged over 18 - Social Affairs & News from Ireland & Abroad | The Irish Times - Thu, Apr 04, 2013

    Postscript: 7th April 2013

    On account of the the information gained from this thread- I was a virgin on the issue when starting it- despite the extremism on it mostly (to date) by the poster 'Dublin 4' I found out that around 90% of people applying are not genuine. I think that those who are deemed early on to be genuine (and this should not take long) should get full welfare benefits and be allowed seek work (obviously losing their welfare benefits or most of them when they get a job) and that the process of them getting citizenship should only take a few months. I also think that as part of the new asylum system to be brought in across the EU that there should be a quota of refugees allowed into every country in the EU and that, presuming as happens now in Ireland few get in every year, that the State should invite refugees at UNHCR refugee camps to the country. Again with a quota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    In the distance, he could hear the faint sounds of knuckles dragging on floor as the Neanderthals rose from their slumber ...........
    Sadly true. This will bring all the vampires out
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    The Immigration & Asylum Threads are great for a punch up alright.

    Thanks for the OP Darren.

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    We should allow all immigrants currently going through the asylum process the chance to work, pay taxes, live in proper homes and contribute to society. They aren't allowed do this at present, instead suffer having to live in that kip Mosney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    Sadly true. This will bring all the vampires out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    We should allow all immigrants currently going through the asylum process the chance to work, pay taxes, live in proper homes and contribute to society.
    Like the non Irish that SF/IRA shot in the back of the head?

    What happened to SF/IRA's "Greening of the West" Ren- is it just Greening of the North West now?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    We should allow all immigrants currently going through the asylum process the chance to work, pay taxes, live in proper homes and contribute to society. They aren't allowed do this at present, instead suffer having to live in that kip Mosney.
    90 per cent of them are bogus. Their claims are unfounded. The reason they are still here is because the appeal each rejection in an attempt to exhaust the process. Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service Statement by the Minister regarding the Real Facts about the Asylum and Deportation Systems

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    The whole asylum seeker scam should be closed down and these people sent home IMO

    Clearly the vast vast majority are not genuine 'Asylum Seekers'

    BTW the numbers in all in paid accommodation are just a fraction of the numbers living here who came as Asylum Seekers...

    No surprise either that these reports surface in the Irish Times either....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dublin 4 View Post
    Like the non Irish that SF/IRA shot in the back of the head?

    What happened to SF/IRA's "Greening of the West" Ren- is it just Greening of the North West now?



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