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    Default The obscene pay and perks for TDs and Senators. . . There's no recession in Leinster House.

    Enda Kenny asked a Garda last week if he felt he was immune from cuts.

    These are the pay and perks that Enda Kenny and the other 225 members of Leinster House receive.



    1 - Basic wage of a TD: € 92,672
    2 - Basic wage of a Senator: € 65,621

    Additional payments for TDs are as follows:
    3 - Additional payment for a Minister of State: €37,370
    4 - Additional payment for super Ministers of State: € 17,205 (plus € 37,370 above)
    5 - Minister (€ 76,603)
    6 - Tanaiste (€ 91,733)
    7 - Taoiseach (€ 107,328)
    8 - Ceann Comhairle (€ 76,603)
    9 - Leas Ceann Comhairle (€ 37,370)

    10 - Chairpersons of Oireachtas committees (Andrew Doyle, Ciarán Lynch, Dominic Hannigan, Alex White, Pat Breen,Jerry Buttimer, Joanna Tuffy, Peadar Tóibín, Damien English, David Stanton, Thomas Pringle, Seán Barrett, John McGuinness , Tom Hayes): €9,500

    11 - Member of Oireachtas Commission (Senator John Whelan, Senator Tom Sheahan, Senator Marc MacSharry, Deputy Frank Feighan, Deputy Dan Neville, Deputy John Browne, Deputy Catherine Byrne, Deputy Jack Wall ): €9,500

    Chief whips
    12 - Chief Whip (Paul Kehoe): no payment specified in One Stop Shop
    13 - Assistant Government Whip (Emmet Stagg): €15,000
    14 - Whip to Labour Party (Emmet Stagg): no payment specified in One Stop Shop
    15 - Asst Whip to Fine Gael (Joe Carey): €7,500
    16 - Asst Whip to Labour (John Lyons): €6,000
    17 - Whip to Fianna Fail (Sean O’Fearghail): €19,000
    18 - Asst Whip to Fianna Fail (John Browne): €9,500
    19 - Whip to Sinn Fein (Aengus Ó Snodaigh): €6,000
    20 - Asst Whip to Sinn Fein (Jonathan O’Brien): €3,000
    21 - Whip to Socialist Party : €6,000
    22 - Whip to People Before Profit : €6,000

    Additional payments for Senators are as follows
    22 - Cathaoirleach (Paddy Burke): €44,336
    23 - Leas-Chathaoirleach (Denis O’Donovan): €24,429
    24 - Leader of the Seanad (Maurice Cummins): €19,439
    25 - Deputy Leader of the House (Ivana Bacik): €9,500
    26 - Government Whip (Paul Coghlan): €6,000
    27 - Assistant Government Whip (Susan O’Keeffe): €4,000
    28 - Fianna Fáil Leader (Darragh O’Brien): €9,500
    29 - Independent Group of Nominee Senators’ Leader (Jillian Van Turnhout): €6,000
    30 - Independent Group of University Senators’ Leader (Ronan Mullen): €6,000
    31 - Fianna Fáil Whip (Diarmuid Wilson): €6,000
    32 - Independent Group of Nominee Senators’ Whip (Katherine Zappone): €4,000
    33 - Independent Group of University Senators’ Whip (Sean Barrett): €4,000
    34 - Select Committee on Members’ Interests of Seanad Éireann (Ivana Bacik, Deirdre Clune,David Cullinane, Maurice Cummins, Ronan Mullen, Darragh O’Brien, Jillian Turnhout) : €3,100 per annum

    Pensions
    35 - TDs and senators contribute 6% of their salary a year for up to a maximum of 20 years in order to benefit from the Dail pension scheme. It is a final salary scheme which allows for a maximum of ½ the final salary to be paid for life from aged 65 – 1/40th of final salary is accrued for each year of service. It provides for a lump sum upon retirement and it is possible to take early retirement from age 50.

    Allowances
    36 - Travel and Accommodation: €12,000 - €37,850 per annum depending on distance from the Leinster House. Senators get paid €7,000 - €32,850 per annum and so-called “office holders” get paid €8,400 - €36,150 per annum
    Public Representation Allowance: €15,000 for TDs (no evidence of expenditure required – unvouched) or up to €25,700 (supported by invoices and receipts – vouched); Ministers €12,000 (unvouched) to €20,000 (vouched); Senators €9,250 (unvouched) to €15,000 (vouched)

    37 - Dual abode allowance: This applies to ministers only and allows Ministers to claim tax deductions on mortgages, rental or hotel accommodation PLUS tax deductions for maintaining property and other expenses which can be up to €6,500.

    38 - Ministers can claim a tax deduction on the interest on any loan required to purchase a second residence.

    39 - Ministers can claim a tax deduction on maintenance required on any second residence. € 6,500

    40 - Ministers can claim the entire cost of rental accommodation if their second residence is rented.

    41 - Ministers can claim a tax deduction on the cost of maintaining a second rented residence.

    42 - As an alternative to 41 Ministers can claim a tax deduction of €4,500

    43 - If Ministers use a hotel or guest house as a second residence they an claim for the entire cost IN ADDITION to €72.66 for subsistence.

    44 - If Ministers use a hotel or guest house as a second residence they an claim for maintenance costs (e.g. laundry)

    45 - As an alternative to 44 Ministers can claim €3,500

    46 - Allowance for Independent TDs
    € 41,152 per annum each for the 18 independent TDs (Stephen Donnelly, Luke Flanagan, Mick Wallace, Shane Ross, Thomas Pringle, Michael Healy-Rae, Michael Lowry, Finian McGrath, Mattie McGrath, Tom Fleming, Noel Grealish, John Halligan, Catherine Murphy, Maureen O’Sullivan PLUS four TDs who have had the party whip removed Tommy Broughan, Willie Penrose, Denis Naughten and Patrick Nulty ).

    47 - Allowance for Independent Senators
    € 23,388 for 11 independent senators (John Crown, David Norris, Sean Barrett, Martin McAleese, Feargal Quinn, Ronan Mullen, Fiach Mac Conghail, Marie-Louise O’Donnell, Jillian van Turnhout, Katherine Zappone, Mary Ann O’Brien.

    48 - Termination payments:
    These are due to of a lump sum upon termination PLUS a monthly payment for up to a year. As long as you have at least six months service in either the Dail or Seanad, you get a termination payment of two months salary. The monthly payment depends on how many years you’ve been a TD or senator eg for five years, you get three months at 75% of your salary. If you have over 14 years service, then you’d be entitled to 6 months at 75% of salary plus the following six months at 50% of salary.

    49 - Mileage Allowances



    50 - Each minister and minister of state, except An Taoiseach, An Tanaiste and justice minister, is entitled to recruit two drivers apiece at a cost which is charged to each department.

    51 - Attendance of a TD at a "parliamentary assembly" carries hotel expenses and a subsistence allowance for "entertaining"

    52 - Parliamentary assistants allowance (no requirement by Oireachtas members to report appointing members of their own families)
    Up to €41,092 per TD for secretarial assistance, PR, IT and training
    €8,000 per TD to set up and kit out a constituency office

    Additional perks
    53 - Free parking in central Dublin (normal cost €12 per day approx)
    54 - Free gym
    55 - Free subsidised restaurant
    56 - Private members bar with subsidised drinks
    57 - Free tax advice service
    58 - Free language lessons
    59 - Postage: – 1,500 free postage items per month for TDs and 1,000 for senators.
    60 - Free ink cartridges: up to the value of €2000 annually
    61 - Free unlimited telephone calls (landline)
    62 - Mobile phone allowance: €750 every 18 months
    63 - Free office in Leinster House for TDs & Senators
    64 - VHI free
    65 - Free Automobile A insurance
    66 - Free car insurance.
    67 - Free personal accident and death insurance
    68 - Individual state funding for political parties

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    Are teachers' conferences THAT boring?
    I have no money, but I love my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoutingIsLeadership View Post
    Are teachers' conferences THAT boring?
    You're clearly not a TD or Senator with that signature of yours.

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    love the 'free ink cartridge' and 'free gym' allowance... fat chancers the lot

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    Add to that the cost of their office revamps. Chairman of the PAC John McGuinness spent €250k on revamping his office as Junior in 2007 compliments of Johnny the taxpayer!

    Watchdog chief under fire for

    Luxury toilet paper only in minister's

    Wtf is this about free VHI? What exact VHI plan do these goon's get? Do they get free VHI family plans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwards dad View Post
    love the 'free ink cartridge' and 'free gym' allowance... fat chancers the lot
    My old job used to give an allowance towards lunch and an allowance towards gym membership. McCreevy brought them into the BIK net, though. That was the end of them.

    No such BIK for on-site gyms or restaurants, though.
    I have no money, but I love my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoutingIsLeadership View Post
    Are teachers' conferences THAT boring?
    That's true.
    I have no money, but I love my life.

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    The list really is an obscenity. It would read badly in a country with a burgeoning economy and full employment. On this bankrupt rock, sustained by other people's money, it's a damning indictment of our notion of 'democracy'.

    The most utterly ludicrous payment, and one devoid of a gram of justification, is that paid to independent TDs in the form of a 'leader's allowance'. This one insults every level of intelligence and symbolises just how morally bankrupt the whole cesspit that is Leinster House has become.

    As I'm sick of repeating, until there are mass protests for change the fleas will keep sucking your blood.
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    You're becoming an auld cynic R.

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    /MOD/ There are active threads on pay/expense reform here: http://www.politics.ie/forum/oireach...officials.html and here: http://www.politics.ie/forum/oireach...os-heroes.html /MOD/
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