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    From today, the previous 8 regional police forces which covered the territory of Scotland (8 of the 52 regional forces in the UK) have been unified into a single force to cover the whole country.

    The force, called Police Scotland, will be accountable to the Scottish Parliament and will have 17,400 officers and 6,200 civilian staff - making it proportionately much larger than our Gardai. Cuts in these numbers are likely as the Scottish government has promised the merger will save 1.4 billion.

    Is this a step in the direction of independence for Scotland? Or just a casual reform in policing. Police Scotland is now the 2nd largest force in the UK, after the London Met.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ap...hief-constable

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    Good move for Salmond. Makes a national boundary so to speak.
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    They have done the same with their fire service as well

    Major challenges ahead for Scotland's single fire service | Public Leaders Network | Guardian Professional

    They have one service of over 8000 firefighters for a population of 5.2 million people.
    We have 30 different authorities with many chiefs and separate admin and only 3000 firefighters for a population of 4.5 million.

    Guess which country the department of environment didn't look at when doing their review of the fire service.
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    17,000 police officers for a population of 5 million is ridiculously high. At least 3,000 of those should be shaved off in the coming years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glaucon View Post
    17,000 police officers for a population of 5 million is ridiculously high. At least 3,000 of those should be shaved off in the coming years.
    PSNI have 7200 officers for 1.7m people and the Gardai have 13600 for 4.4m

    Nearly 21000 for the island with 6.1m people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glaucon View Post
    17,000 police officers for a population of 5 million is ridiculously high. At least 3,000 of those should be shaved off in the coming years.
    Taking into account the shifts. Lets keep it very simple and say they all work a 4 shift roster. Now you have 4250 officers at any given time for a population of 5 million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    From today, the previous 8 regional police forces which covered the territory of Scotland (8 of the 52 regional forces in the UK) have been unified into a single force to cover the whole country.

    The force, called Police Scotland, will be accountable to the Scottish Parliament and will have 17,400 officers and 6,200 civilian staff - making it proportionately much larger than our Gardai. Cuts in these numbers are likely as the Scottish government has promised the merger will save 1.4 billion.

    Is this a step in the direction of independence for Scotland? Or just a casual reform in policing. Police Scotland is now the 2nd largest force in the UK, after the London Met.

    Scotland's new unified police force replaces eight regional constabularies | UK news | guardian.co.uk
    If so, will be interesting to see how the SNP handles the backlash over a decidingly non-populist policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    From today, the previous 8 regional police forces which covered the territory of Scotland (8 of the 52 regional forces in the UK) have been unified into a single force to cover the whole country.

    The force, called Police Scotland, will be accountable to the Scottish Parliament and will have 17,400 officers and 6,200 civilian staff - making it proportionately much larger than our Gardai. Cuts in these numbers are likely as the Scottish government has promised the merger will save 1.4 billion.

    Is this a step in the direction of independence for Scotland? Or just a casual reform in policing. Police Scotland is now the 2nd largest force in the UK, after the London Met.
    Salmond might think it's the former but the reality is that it's merely the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glaucon View Post
    17,000 police officers for a population of 5 million is ridiculously high. At least 3,000 of those should be shaved off in the coming years.
    17,000 is not a high number.

    It works out at approx. 1 officer to every 2 miles, the RoI has 1 officer to every 2 miles and NI has approx 1 officer to every mile.

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    Police Scotland is a rubbish name. They should stick with the Scottish name only:

    Seirbheis Phoilis na h-Alba. Much better.

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