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    Since the economic crash of 2007 anyone who's paid even the slightest attention will have a general idea of who wrecked the economy and how.

    Bankers overseeing an import of unsustainable debt to fuel the property bubble of developers who grossly over-inflated the price of property in the knowledge they get whatever price they sought.

    Politicians who facilitated this by introducing 'light touch' regulation and attacked anyone who tried to speak up against what was happening. The Politicians also allowed a third of the countries taxation base to be dependent on the contruction industry related tax, so when the crash happened it made the arrival of the IMF/Troika inevitable, or face an instant alternative of a 30% cut in EVERYTHING.

    Media outlets who did nothing to highlight the scandal of 'light touch' regulation, or got amnesia when it came to how the heads of particular media outlets interacted corruptly with politicians, as found in the Mahon Tribunal.

    6 years on, our country is still in trauma, it's people suffering terribly yet those responsible for causing this catastrophe continue on scot free, with little or no prospect of justice being served on them.

    The politicians responsible have skipped off happily into retirement with nice big pensions, while others are plotting their comeback courtesy of the forgiving Irish public.

    The bankers have secured a debt deal which will see them get all their money (with interest) back over the next 30 years, courtesy of a deal negotiated by the current Government. Those in place at the time of the crash have 'been removed'. (AKA given golden handshakes to retire quietly) In addition, there is no prospect of any of them facing justice for their part in wrecking the economy.

    The media continue on their merry way generating and implementing their own agendas with the politicians in tow.

    The people have been taxed to the hilt (with plenty more to come), lost their jobs, have been forced to emigrate, left with unsustainable debt ( some of the lucky ones will shortly have a debt forgiveness for rations deal). Our public services are being taken apart to generate the money to pay the bank debt. Everyone's giving out about Austerity but continue to vote for pro austerity parties in greater numbers.

    What a Rotten Republic you have turned this country into.

    EDIT: First proposed solution: Strip associated politician/bankers (FF/PD/GP, Anglo/ILP/AIB/BOI of their pensions (not deserved because of gross negligence, legislate to do it if required)

    Second proposed solution: Put those above on trial for causing negligent damage to the State. Alternatively, put them on trial for economic treason.

    Third option
    : Do nothing and wish them well in their retirements.

    Oh, Happy Easter All !!!!!
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    It's a rant but one that's spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wedwood View Post
    Since the economic crash of 2007 anyone who's paid even the slightest attention will have a general idea of who wrecked the economy and how.

    Bankers overseeing an import of unsustainable debt to fuel the property bubble of developers who grossly over-inflated the price of property in the knowledge they get whatever price they sought.

    Politicians who facilitated this by introducing 'light touch' regulation and attacked anyone who tried to speak up against what was happening. The Politicians also allowed a third of the countries taxation base to be dependent on the contruction industry related tax, so when the crash happened it made the arrival of the IMF/Troika inevitable, or face an instant alternative of a 30% cut in EVERYTHING.

    Media outlets who did nothing to highlight the scandal of 'light touch' regulation, or got amnesia when it came to how the heads of particular media outlets interacted corruptly with politicians, as found in the Mahon Tribunal.

    6 years on, our country is still in trauma, it's people suffering terribly yet those responsible for causing this catastrophe continue on scot free, with little or no prospect of justice being served on them.

    The politicians responsible have skipped off happily into retirement with nice big pensions, while others are plotting their comeback courtesy of the forgiving Irish public.

    The bankers have secured a debt deal which will see them get all their money (with interest) back over the next 30 years, courtesy of a deal negotiated by the current Government. Those in place at the time of the crash have 'been removed'. (AKA given golden handshakes to retire quietly) In addition, there is no prospect of any of them facing justice for their part in wrecking the economy.

    The media continue on their merry way generating and implementing their own agendas with the politicians in tow.

    The people have been taxed to the hilt (with plenty more to come), lost their jobs, have been forced to emigrate, left with unsustainable debt ( some of the lucky ones will shortly have a debt forgiveness for rations deal). Our public services are being taken apart to generate the money to pay the bank debt. Everyone's giving out about Austerity but continue to vote for pro austerity parties in greater numbers.

    What a Rotten Republic you have turned this country into.
    And your surefire, painless alternative is?

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    Welcome to socialism buddy,

    Now, turn on your radio, Marian is about to tell you what to think,

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    You forgot to mention FF. petunia

    The gutter press, those who dragged us into the gutter, share a huge responsibility. The leading gutter press was the one which had those wonderful property supplements and is still being hailed as the quality paper. It's all about WHY! WHY, WHY, WHY...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wedwood View Post
    Since the economic crash of 2007 anyone who's paid even the slightest attention will have a general idea of who wrecked the economy and how.

    Bankers overseeing an import of unsustainable debt to fuel the property bubble of developers who grossly over-inflated the price of property in the knowledge they get whatever price they sought.

    Politicians who facilitated this by introducing 'light touch' regulation and attacked anyone who tried to speak up against what was happening. The Politicians also allowed a third of the countries taxation base to be dependent on the contruction industry related tax, so when the crash happened it made the arrival of the IMF/Troika inevitable, or face an instant alternative of a 30% cut in EVERYTHING.

    Media outlets who did nothing to highlight the scandal of 'light touch' regulation, or got amnesia when it came to how the heads of particular media outlets interacted corruptly with politicians, as found in the Mahon Tribunal.

    6 years on, our country is still in trauma, it's people suffering terribly yet those responsible for causing this catastrophe continue on scot free, with little or no prospect of justice being served on them.

    The politicians responsible have skipped off happily into retirement with nice big pensions, while others are plotting their comeback courtesy of the forgiving Irish public.

    The bankers have secured a debt deal which will see them get all their money (with interest) back over the next 30 years, courtesy of a deal negotiated by the current Government. Those in place at the time of the crash have 'been removed'. (AKA given golden handshakes to retire quietly) In addition, there is no prospect of any of them facing justice for their part in wrecking the economy.

    The media continue on their merry way generating and implementing their own agendas with the politicians in tow.

    The people have been taxed to the hilt (with plenty more to come), lost their jobs, have been forced to emigrate, left with unsustainable debt ( some of the lucky ones will shortly have a debt forgiveness for rations deal). Our public services are being taken apart to generate the money to pay the bank debt. Everyone's giving out about Austerity but continue to vote for pro austerity parties in greater numbers.

    What a Rotten Republic you have turned this country into.
    And who says Turkeys don't vote for Xmas, well the Irish ones do -

    " Ms McEntee received 11,473 votes ahead of Fianna Fáil's Thomas Byrne who got 9,582 votes on the third count. "
    Follow the money in this country and it ALWAYS goes back to state support, be it tax breaks, state contracts and the manipulation of markets for the gombeen class.

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    Media had a massive roll to play. Without a functioning, questioning media that can inform the public a democracy is a democracy in name only. Ireland is not a real democracy.

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    Ah, yes, but things are getting back to 'normal': Mary Hannafin is a guest with Marion this morning!!

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    First of all... Happy Easter

    Secondly... is there a point to this thread or are you just having a rant...?

    Your points are valid... but you have no suggestions as to how to rectify them...

    Personally it's the eFFing traitors poncing off on fat pay offs and pensions that I find the most nauseating of all the obscenities that have been perpetrated... Those vermin are sewerage to me... and those vermin who jumped without giving their constituents the opportunity to pass judgement on their horrendous failures are the lowest of the low... imo... Their pensions need to be revoked.

    And of course the 'Bastards of the Universe / W*nker bankers' come a close second... Topping up the AIB pension fund while fat pay and pensions are dished out is also repugnant stuff...

    Apart from that... I dunno what to say... other than Happy Easter again...


    Quote Originally Posted by wedwood View Post
    Since the economic crash of 2007 anyone who's paid even the slightest attention will have a general idea of who wrecked the economy and how.

    Bankers overseeing an import of unsustainable debt to fuel the property bubble of developers who grossly over-inflated the price of property in the knowledge they get whatever price they sought.

    Politicians who facilitated this by introducing 'light touch' regulation and attacked anyone who tried to speak up against what was happening. The Politicians also allowed a third of the countries taxation base to be dependent on the contruction industry related tax, so when the crash happened it made the arrival of the IMF/Troika inevitable, or face an instant alternative of a 30% cut in EVERYTHING.

    Media outlets who did nothing to highlight the scandal of 'light touch' regulation, or got amnesia when it came to how the heads of particular media outlets interacted corruptly with politicians, as found in the Mahon Tribunal.

    6 years on, our country is still in trauma, it's people suffering terribly yet those responsible for causing this catastrophe continue on scot free, with little or no prospect of justice being served on them.

    The politicians responsible have skipped off happily into retirement with nice big pensions, while others are plotting their comeback courtesy of the forgiving Irish public.

    The bankers have secured a debt deal which will see them get all their money (with interest) back over the next 30 years, courtesy of a deal negotiated by the current Government. Those in place at the time of the crash have 'been removed'. (AKA given golden handshakes to retire quietly) In addition, there is no prospect of any of them facing justice for their part in wrecking the economy.

    The media continue on their merry way generating and implementing their own agendas with the politicians in tow.

    The people have been taxed to the hilt (with plenty more to come), lost their jobs, have been forced to emigrate, left with unsustainable debt ( some of the lucky ones will shortly have a debt forgiveness for rations deal). Our public services are being taken apart to generate the money to pay the bank debt. Everyone's giving out about Austerity but continue to vote for pro austerity parties in greater numbers.

    What a Rotten Republic you have turned this country into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wedwood View Post
    Since the economic crash of 2007 anyone who's paid even the slightest attention will have a general idea of who wrecked the economy and how.

    Bankers overseeing an import of unsustainable debt to fuel the property bubble of developers who grossly over-inflated the price of property in the knowledge they get whatever price they sought.

    Politicians who facilitated this by introducing 'light touch' regulation and attacked anyone who tried to speak up against what was happening. The Politicians also allowed a third of the countries taxation base to be dependent on the contruction industry related tax, so when the crash happened it made the arrival of the IMF/Troika inevitable, or face an instant alternative of a 30% cut in EVERYTHING.

    Media outlets who did nothing to highlight the scandal of 'light touch' regulation, or got amnesia when it came to how the heads of particular media outlets interacted corruptly with politicians, as found in the Mahon Tribunal.

    6 years on, our country is still in trauma, it's people suffering terribly yet those responsible for causing this catastrophe continue on scot free, with little or no prospect of justice being served on them.

    The politicians responsible have skipped off happily into retirement with nice big pensions, while others are plotting their comeback courtesy of the forgiving Irish public.

    The bankers have secured a debt deal which will see them get all their money (with interest) back over the next 30 years, courtesy of a deal negotiated by the current Government. Those in place at the time of the crash have 'been removed'. (AKA given golden handshakes to retire quietly) In addition, there is no prospect of any of them facing justice for their part in wrecking the economy.

    The media continue on their merry way generating and implementing their own agendas with the politicians in tow.

    The people have been taxed to the hilt (with plenty more to come), lost their jobs, have been forced to emigrate, left with unsustainable debt ( some of the lucky ones will shortly have a debt forgiveness for rations deal). Our public services are being taken apart to generate the money to pay the bank debt. Everyone's giving out about Austerity but continue to vote for pro austerity parties in greater numbers.

    What a Rotten Republic you have turned this country into.
    Remember, the people voted FF in.

    For justice to be served a law must be broken. Can you specify what laws were broken or if not what specific legislative changes you feel should be made?

    People need to think carefully about who they vote for. It seems the voters rarely consider the long term consequences of voting for candidates or parties with a track record in promising things in the short term that do not make much sense in the medium to long term. Hence we had the 1970's recession, the 1980's recession and the current recession which will probably last in one form or another for 15-20 years.

    You sound as if you believe there is some alternative for 'austerity'. Two points-we have to pay back our sovereign debt and we have to live within our means. You can argue as much as you want about bank debt but the above points are central.

    Instead we have the motley collection of populists pretending otherwise and preparing to foist even more debt onto our children and grandchildren so that we can avoid the consequences for our bad voting decisions.

    On another thread there is a complaint about the standard of candidates in our elections. Well given the intelligence and 'I want it now' attitude of the vast majority of voters it is little wonder that we tend to attact the type of candidates that we get. Any candidate who tried to tell the truth would have little ot no chance of election!

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