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    Who will the next leader of the Labour Party be?

    Gilmore will be gone by the autumn, he has no reason to hang on, and the party has a track record of changing leaders when things go awry.

    Labour can't go in to the locals with the poll ratings he has got, and nobody believes he has the sort of political intelligence to turn these around. This is the man, remember, who couldn't get a running mate elected in his own constituency despite a huge swing to his party in 2011.

    A bad showing at the locals would be truly disastrous for the Labour Party, who depend on patronage and money from the local authorities they control (and all their related quangos) for much of their support outside the unions.

    So, given it can't be Rabbitte or Quinn (they have already had a go) and Howlin is too weird, who do you think it will be?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Heligoland View Post

    Who will the next leader of the Labour Party be?

    Gilmore will be gone by the autumn, he has no reason to hang on, and the party has a track record of changing leaders when things go awry.

    Labour can't go in to the locals with the poll ratings he has got, and nobody believes he has the sort of political intelligence to turn these around. This is the man, remember, who couldn't get a running mate elected in his own constituency despite a huge swing to his party in 2011.

    A bad showing at the locals would be truly disastrous for the Labour Party, who depend on patronage and money from the local authorities they control (and all their related quangos) for much of their support outside the unions.

    So, given it can't be Rabbitte or Quinn (they have already had a go) and Howlin is too weird, who do you think it will be?



    Burton.

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    I can't see him going away for another while. Shortall up next to many shocked faces.
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    If Howlin came out as gay he might be a viable candidate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Bumble View Post

    Question: How does the Labour party get money from local authorities and quangoes?
    Jobs for party activists and their friends, who then channel money into local party funds. Advantageous planning decisions and contracts for the business community, which are repaid by (stealthily distanced) political donations. I thought this was common knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    If Howlin came out as gay he might be a viable candidate

    cYp
    enough of that. They tried it in Meath, Ivana went down to unveil new equality thing for gays, and it was a dead letter.
    The older crew like Howlin, Shorthall,Burton etc have blown it- next leader in good few years will come from younger ranks like Sherlock, Nolan, etc. Motormouth Keaveney shot himself in foot -0 like Nullty who used Labour as springboard to get elected and jumped ship after a month or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heligoland View Post
    Jobs for party activists and their friends, who then channel money into local party funds. Advantageous planning decisions and contracts fro the business community, which are repaid by (stealthily distanced) political donations. I thought this was common knowledge.
    How endemic are these practices? Do you have any proof for your claims? Are they the only party who does this type of thing? Do you seriously think that the Labour party receives more donations from business than other parties?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    I can't see him going away for another while. Shortall up next to many shocked faces.
    I couldn't see Shortall becoming the next leader. She's ruffled too many senior feathers.
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    Gilmore may survive this one but if these results are repeated nationally in the Euros/Locals next year then there'll be too many worried Labour TDs for their not to be some sort of leadership challenge.

    They lied in 2011 for their own selfish interest (to obtain power).

    They'll act against Gilmore in entirely their own interests again.

    Burton will probably be the front runner.

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    Does it even matter anymore? Gilmore, Rabbitte, Howlin, Quinn and Burton are all toxic.
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