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    Are Labour being damaged by focusing too much on issues such as gay marriage and abortion rights while the people's main concerns are related to jobs and the economy?

    Senior Labour party figures think so. Last weekend's Sunday Independent quoted a statement from rebel party Chairman Colm Keveney who took issue with the importance Gilmore attached to gay marriage:

    Mr Keaveney cited Mr Gilmore's description of equal marriage rights as the "civil rights issue of our generation".
    But he said: "These are not the issues that are leaving many families and individuals worrying over how to pay their bills and to retain the ability to raise their children with dignity.

    "Unfinished estates and the fairness and objectivity of the new property tax and the failure to adequately address both will become an issue that will haunt both government parties," he wrote.
    The Sunday Indpendent also quoted a "senior party figure" who was dissatisfied with Gilmore's focus on gay marriage and abortion:

    "This is f***ing amateur hour," said another. "Every guard and nurse is spitting fire at us and our man is going on about gay marriage and Savita."
    Coalition under threat over Phil Hogan 'macho, reckless' actions - Independent.ie

    Those gripes may seem to be justified by today's dismal performance of Cllr. Eoin Holmes in the Meath-east by-election. He made gay marriage a key aspect of his campaign by teaming up with Ivana Bacik to release her "marriage equality" bill as part of a campaign stunt to drum up support. There was no such stunt to unveil a new policy related to jobs or the economy.


    Let them eat cake as we drink champagne:
    An obviously tone-deaf photoshoot after Bacik and
    Holmes unveiled a "marriage equality" bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyrocket View Post
    Are Labour being damaged by focusing too much on issues such as gay marriage and abortion rights while the people's main concerns are related to jobs and the economy?

    Senior Labour party figures think so. Last weekend's Sunday Independent quoted a statement from rebel party Chairman Colm Keveney who took issue with the importance Gilmore attached to gay marriage:



    The Sunday Indpendent also quoted a "senior party figure" who was dissatisfied with Gilmore's focus on gay marriage and abortion:



    Coalition under threat over Phil Hogan 'macho, reckless' actions - Independent.ie

    Those gripes may seem to be justified by today's dismal performance of Cllr. Eoin Holmes in the Meath-east by-election. He made gay marriage a key aspect of his campaign by teaming up with Ivana Bacik to release her "marriage equality" bill as part of a campaign stunt to drum up support. There was no such stunt to unveil a new policy related to jobs or the economy.


    Let them eat cake as we drink champagne:
    An obviously tone-deaf photoshoot after Bacik and
    Holmes unveiled a "marriage equality" bill.
    Social conservatives want you to think that this is a stinging rebuke of Labour's liberal agenda. It was really payback for broken promises and a broken economy. Holmes grabbed onto social issues because he had nothing else to go on.

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    It isn't that labour don't have a valid agenda here

    It is just that (a) they don't have a mandate for that at the present
    And (b) there efforts to manufacture one via spin their influence in rte to set Agendas and ruthless attempt to exploit Savitas death to that end are a sickening indictment of cynical stickie manipulation

    Stickies have done to labour what Haughey did to FF

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    That comment about 'Gay Marriage being the civil rights issue of our generation' was offensive to people with real problems. Even the communists have more cop on than Gilmore

    Communist Party of Ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnesiac View Post
    Social conservatives want you to think that this is a stinging rebuke of Labour's liberal agenda. It was really payback for broken promises and a broken economy. Holmes grabbed onto social issues because he had nothing else to go on.
    The reason you are wrong is that FG broke promises too

    but FG won the seat

    QED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyrocket View Post
    Are Labour being damaged by focusing too much on issues such as gay marriage and abortion rights while the people's main concerns are related to jobs and the economy?

    Senior Labour party figures think so. Last weekend's Sunday Independent quoted a statement from rebel party Chairman Colm Keveney who took issue with the importance Gilmore attached to gay marriage:



    The Sunday Indpendent also quoted a "senior party figure" who was dissatisfied with Gilmore's focus on gay marriage and abortion:



    Coalition under threat over Phil Hogan 'macho, reckless' actions - Independent.ie

    Those gripes may seem to be justified by today's dismal performance of Cllr. Eoin Holmes in the Meath-east by-election. He made gay marriage a key aspect of his campaign by teaming up with Ivana Bacik to release her "marriage equality" bill as part of a campaign stunt to drum up support. There was no such stunt to unveil a new policy related to jobs or the economy.


    Let them eat cake as we drink champagne:
    An obviously tone-deaf photoshoot after Bacik and
    Holmes unveiled a "marriage equality" bill.
    Labour damaged by not honoring their election promises, simple as!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honecker View Post
    That comment about 'Gay Marriage being the civil rights issue of our generation' was offensive to people with real problems. Even the communists have more cop on than Gilmore

    Communist Party of Ireland

    For once we agree

    A commie we've told labour to win economic war first and then build social war on that victory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyrocket View Post
    Are Labour being damaged by focusing too much on issues such as gay marriage and abortion rights while the people's main concerns are related to jobs and the economy?

    Senior Labour party figures think so. Last weekend's Sunday Independent quoted a statement from rebel party Chairman Colm Keveney who took issue with the importance Gilmore attached to gay marriage:



    The Sunday Indpendent also quoted a "senior party figure" who was dissatisfied with Gilmore's focus on gay marriage and abortion:



    Coalition under threat over Phil Hogan 'macho, reckless' actions - Independent.ie

    Those gripes may seem to be justified by today's dismal performance of Cllr. Eoin Holmes in the Meath-east by-election. He made gay marriage a key aspect of his campaign by teaming up with Ivana Bacik to release her "marriage equality" bill as part of a campaign stunt to drum up support. There was no such stunt to unveil a new policy related to jobs or the economy.


    Let them eat cake as we drink champagne:
    An obviously tone-deaf photoshoot after Bacik and
    Holmes unveiled a "marriage equality" bill.

    Photo just said it all

    Sometimes I think Ivana is a secret agent working for the Iona Institute

    she makes them look reasonable

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    So we ignore anything that isn't already common talk? Presumably we should also ignore water supply, pollution, climate change, the ageing population or anything else coming down the line to focus on bread and circuses. Young people in care? Prisoners? Mentally ill? No votes in that either, just try and get some Yanks in to set up a tax fiddle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by florin View Post
    So we ignore anything that isn't already common talk? Presumably we should also ignore water supply, pollution, climate change, the ageing population or anything else coming down the line to focus on bread and circuses. Young people in care? Prisoners? Mentally ill? No votes in that either, just try and get some Yanks in to set up a tax fiddle.
    Huh?

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