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Thread: SHATTER sanctions 4 Gardai.

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    Default SHATTER sanctions 4 Gardai.

    I'm just listening to the news and now JDuffy is on about sanctions Shatter has taken against the 4 Gardai who walked out on him and the comissioner. What type of sanctions can be lent against them for complaining? Are they not allowed? Is this justified by both sides and where is the respect that is being eroded going to lead us?.

    RTE NEWS: Minister for Justice Alan Shatter has sanctioned disciplinary action to be taken against four garda sergeants who twice walked out of their association's annual conference this week. The four staged walk outs before the minister's address and Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan's address to the meeting of ASGI. The four are due to appear before an assistant commissioner later this week and a disciplinary board is expected to be set up. They could face a range of sanctions including fines, suspension and a reduction in rank.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0327/378567-garda/
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    The Gardai are a Military force who refer to us as Civilians. They must not walk out on their own Commander in Chief or Commissioner.

    They are there to take orders!

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    Er. . .what?

    What year is this?

    1933

    The Blueshirts are up to their old tricks. . . . If you have the "cheek" to walk on these gobshítes they'll sanction you.

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    They did not show adequate respect to the members of the elite,

    That's not allowed,

    Just like North Korea,

    What's the problem?

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    What's he supposed to do?

    He can hardly condone their behaviour.

    It wasn't so much that they walked out on him, but that they walked out on their Commissioner. If they refuse to show the Commissioner the respect his office is entitled to, then the alternative is indiscipline and potential anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribeye View Post
    They did not show adequate respect to the members of the elite,

    That's not allowed,

    Just like North Korea,

    What's the problem?
    it's insubordination

    simple concept

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    This is disciplinary action taken by the commissioner.

    It is an internal Garda matter and Shatter would be wrong not to back the commisioner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribeye View Post
    They did not show adequate respect to the members of the elite,

    That's not allowed,

    Just like North Korea,

    What's the problem?
    They don't like being embarrassed so they're using these four to send out a message. . . Ya know - like the guy who got 6 years for importing garlic as apples. . . Pay your taxes and we don't give a toss if your business is struggling.

    Now go and say "5 point plan" one thousand times

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    In fairness they stated that they had 'no confidence' in the Commissioner. Just like in the military the Gardai cannot say that without their being consequences as the next step is to refuse to obey orders in the performance of their duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    Er. . .what?

    What year is this?

    1933

    The Blueshirts are up to their old tricks. . . . If you have the "cheek" to walk on these gobshítes they'll sanction you.
    Now we see the right-wing fascism of the Blueshirts - hopefully Labour will slap him down on this, and they may just be in the mood to do so after Meath-East.

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