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    Default Partition of Scotland looming as Scottish Lib Dems back Shetland/Orkney secession

    The independence referendum due to take place next year is throwing up some unexpected consequences. The Scottish Liberal Democrat conference backed the idea of Shetland and Orkney becoming independent entities similar to the Isle of Man with their own relationship to central government in London. The two island groups are among the Liberal Democrats' strongest areas in Scotland.

    Guardian report: Lib Dems call on Shetland and Orkney to become more independent | Politics | guardian.co.uk

    It is true that the islands have always been more distinct than the rest of Scotland than, for example, the Hebrides. The idea of the Hebrides separating is simply unthinkable - they are obviously more Scottish than Shetland. The defection of Shetland and Orkney would be a huge blow to the Scottish independence campaign, given that they would obviously have a claim on much of the North Sea mineral wealth currently claimed by Scotland.

    Interesting times ahead!
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    UKIP Deputy Leader Paul Nuttall features in Channel 4's The Political Slot as he presents UKIP's policy for an English Parliament.


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    The Shetlands have been part of Scotland for 550 years, Scotland has been part of the UK for 300 years. Not an enormous difference so Shetland separating from Scotland isn't that different from Scotland departing the UK. It would be interesting to see what is the view of the SNP would be to a referendum of independence being offered to Shetland. I would presume they would attempt to block any such referendum on the basis of the oil revenue they would lose, but it would be interesting to hear their justification for opposition to such a referendum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeGaulle 2.0 View Post
    The independence referendum due to take place next year is throwing up some unexpected consequences. The Scottish Liberal Democrat conference backed the idea of Shetland and Orkney becoming independent entities similar to the Isle of Man with their own relationship to central government in London. The two island groups are among the Liberal Democrats' strongest areas in Scotland.

    Guardian report: Lib Dems call on Shetland and Orkney to become more independent | Politics | guardian.co.uk

    It is true that the islands have always been more distinct than the rest of Scotland than, for example, the Hebrides. The idea of the Hebrides separating is simply unthinkable - they are obviously more Scottish than Shetland. The defection of Shetland and Orkney would be a huge blow to the Scottish independence campaign, given that they would obviously have a claim on much of the North Sea mineral wealth currently claimed by Scotland.

    Interesting times ahead!
    I imagine that the look on Alex Salmond's face when this starts to move will be pirceless.

    With North Sea royalties, and historical links the new independent entity will have no reason to want to have any assocoation with the corrupt EU either. Perhaps it might go the entire journey.
    Coveney's ambition is the be Ireland's next EU Commissar and Ireland will pay a price as he builds his CV to position himself sufficiently loyal to the nEU empire.

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    Knew a few Shetland guys - reckoned they were Half Norse, Half Scots.



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    A lof of them supported Celtic & said the Celtic supporters never fell out over religion.

    The hilarious thing was he said to me that the Celtic supporters were from the 2 different religions.

    Then he said - half of us are Presbyterians & the other half are Methodists...

    Bit disconnected from Scotland alright... petunia

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    Ideally nobody would own the stuff under the ground and it would all be placed in a global fund to be distributed equally across every human being.
    Repeal the 27th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dublin 4 View Post
    Knew a few Shetland guys - reckoned they were Half Norse, Half Scots.



    Up Helly Aa - Europe's Largest Fire Festival - Official Website of the Lerwick Up-Helly-Aa Committee

    A lof of them supported Celtic & said the Celtic supporters never fell out over religion.

    The hilarious thing was he said to me that the Celtic supporters were from the 2 different religions.

    Then he said - half of us are Presbyterians & the other half are Methodists...

    Bit disconnected from Scotland alright... petunia
    A large proportion of the people on the East coast of Scotland and the cost on the West coast of Scotland can honestly state they are half Norse and half Scots. Most of the islands around Scotland were Norse at one point, with a lot of settlement in other areas.

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    Colossal boost to UKIP's English Parliament Campaign...

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    Dalkey Island residents take note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeGaulle 2.0 View Post
    The independence referendum due to take place next year is throwing up some unexpected consequences. The Scottish Liberal Democrat conference backed the idea of Shetland and Orkney becoming independent entities similar to the Isle of Man with their own relationship to central government in London. The two island groups are among the Liberal Democrats' strongest areas in Scotland.

    Guardian report: Lib Dems call on Shetland and Orkney to become more independent | Politics | guardian.co.uk

    It is true that the islands have always been more distinct than the rest of Scotland than, for example, the Hebrides. The idea of the Hebrides separating is simply unthinkable - they are obviously more Scottish than Shetland. The defection of Shetland and Orkney would be a huge blow to the Scottish independence campaign, given that they would obviously have a claim on much of the North Sea mineral wealth currently claimed by Scotland.

    Interesting times ahead!
    You wouldn't expect anything else of the British colonial mentality. Any nation harbouring ideas of breaking away face the divide and conquer tactics of an establishment willing to go to any lengths to preserve the status quo. We got a real taste of it here in Ireland back in the 1880s when the Tories whipped up the Unionists to prevent Home Rule and it never mattered a damn to them that they left over a century of destruction in their wake. Nor were we the only country where it happened. Every place that finally shoved the Raj off its territory faced the mean, niggardly, bad-minded and murderous legacy of British withdrawal like the Arabs and the Jews in the Middle East, the Muslims and the Hindus in India, the whites and the blacks in South Africa, the various tribal conflicts in the rest of Africa and the Malays and Chinese in Malaysia. And then, when the pesky natives start shooting each other in a British-inspired civil war, the armchair generals and their apologist Uncle Toms can point to their savagery that only Britain's civilising influence can suppress.

    Stirring the $hit in Orkney and Shetland is only par for the course. The pukka clubs of London must be wetting themselves in anticipation of what shagging up Scotland can achieve.

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