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    Question Remember the NCHD shortage??...

    HSE could face new legal threat


    Oh dear GOD!!!


    The HSE "may" have reneged on contracts.....
    MANY of the doctors (recruited)"failed" the requisite examinations...
    These "doctors" (who are qualified in there own countries...lest we forget) have been left high and dry!!




    Lest we forget folks...this is NOT a new story...and only likely to get worse!!


    This thread(courtesy of another mod...feel free BTW) maybe/should be merged with any of the other threads re NCHD shortages...or perhaps on the threads relating to graduate nurses "refusing" less than normal contract wages.


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    The Minister said it was a resounding success.

    Minister says foreign doc hiring a success - irishhealth.com
    At 12 weeks the “clump of cells” toes curl, her mouth makes sucking movements, she has a human face and if you prod the tummy she will move in response

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    L.....M....A....O....

    (though in an ironic fashion.....)
    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    The Minister said it was a resounding success.

    Minister says foreign doc hiring a success - irishhealth.com
    When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity.

    ALBERT EINSTEIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by spidermom View Post
    L.....M....A....O....

    (though in an ironic fashion.....)
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    You have to tell porkies to get in to that link. How appropriate

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    See previous posting...(the one what ya quoted!!!!)...

    S.I.G.H.....quite similar to the "rash" of applications to the new graduate nursing posts one would contend!!!!!.....
    Quote Originally Posted by nakatomi View Post
    When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity.

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    Is it so fooking hard to offer medical school places to young Irish kids ? 100 to 150K per year salary / 40 hour week / opportunity to specialize and the shortage will be solved.

    The vested interests in this Country make me sick, being a doctor is just a fooking job, it is not particle physics or fighter pilot training. The sooner we start doing the simple things for ourselves the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by storybud1 View Post
    Is it so fooking hard to offer medical school places to young Irish kids ? 100 to 150K per year salary / 40 hour week / opportunity to specialize and the shortage will be solved.

    The vested interests in this Country make me sick, being a doctor is just a fooking job, it is not particle physics or fighter pilot training. The sooner we start doing the simple things for ourselves the better.
    Medicine is actually quite difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by storybud1 View Post
    Is it so fooking hard to offer medical school places to young Irish kids ? 100 to 150K per year salary / 40 hour week / opportunity to specialize and the shortage will be solved.

    The vested interests in this Country make me sick, being a doctor is just a fooking job, it is not particle physics or fighter pilot training. The sooner we start doing the simple things for ourselves the better.
    They are just jobs too.

    I agree with you about entry being too narrow but it is definitely a special kind of job.
    We need to double (or more) the intake of Irish students and give them opportunities for further training.
    It might be a good idea to look at other parameters beside LC 600 points for entry too, I have dealt with plenty of empathic docs who listened and understood, also 1 or 2 who were not empathic.
    I am guessing that there will always be people who will emigrate for better pay elsewhere (as in all professions including mine) but if we actually give the docs a proper career path, standard hours and opportunity for advancement and training most will stay here.

    While we do rely on docs trained abroad we need to grade the universities and qualifications they carry rigourously. Not all universities or medical degrees are the same and we need to act in a steady manner or we may regret it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spidermom View Post
    HSE could face new legal threat


    Oh dear GOD!!!


    The HSE "may" have reneged on contracts.....
    MANY of the doctors (recruited)"failed" the requisite examinations...
    These "doctors" (who are qualified in there own countries...lest we forget) have been left high and dry!!




    Lest we forget folks...this is NOT a new story...and only likely to get worse!!


    This thread(courtesy of another mod...feel free BTW) maybe/should be merged with any of the other threads re NCHD shortages...or perhaps on the threads relating to graduate nurses "refusing" less than normal contract wages.


    ....Discuss........!!
    They should be compensated for their time and given business class flight home.
    It is a sign of gross incompetence that whoever decided on this route didn't test the candidate first at home before they picked up their lives and moved here.
    Someone should lose their job or at the very least should have their pay docked to return some of the money lost in compensating these docs.
    Why do we test these doctors?
    Surely the obvious course is to examine the quality of their university, the strength of the medical degree and if they are both good enough let them work or don't if they are substandard.

    In this case, as we had to train them ourselves at great cost, they should have been sent home (or better yet not brought over).
    At the very least I hope we will not ever be taking more graduates from the universities they attended.
    It is obvious they are offering substandard doctors.
    We have an elite standard here, why should we export those and take in the thrift version and pay extra to bring them up to standard?

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