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    BBC Radio 4 Extra - Brian Friel Stories, The Gold in the Sea
    BBC radio 4 has been running a fabulous rees of Brian Friel plays and stories.
    Heres a link to a poignant story .Theyre not going to be available on the bbC website for much longer so give yourself a st Patrick's day treat and have a listen to some of it .


    Do they put something in the water in Donegal andcTyrone to produce literary giants like Friel , Heaney , Mcguinness.
    The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night .

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    I don't think either Friel or Heaney would consider themselves from "Ulster", McGuinness on the other hand, is an academic historian. Not sure he falls into the literary genre.

    No, Ulster has not produced the literary writers that the Rep has. "Ulster" has not produced a Beckett, O'Casey or Joyce.

    Those writing today, James Patterson is no Joseph O'Connor.
    If we got rid of all the papists, there'd be no trouble whatsoever. The place will be nirvana. Schomberg.

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    [QUOTE=runwiththewind;6542726]I don't think either Friel or Heaney would consider themselves from "Ulster", McGuinness on the other hand, is an academic historian. Not sure he falls into the literary genre.

    No, Ulster has not produced the literary writers that the Rep has. "Ulster" has not produced a Beckett, O'Casey or Joyce.

    Those writing today, James Patterson is no Joseph O'Connor.[/QUOTE

    friel , born in Tyrone ! Schooled in Derry ; Heaney , born in Antrim, schooled in Derry ; Mcguinness born Donegal .....how could they not consider themselves of 'Ulster '
    mcguinness is a magical playwright.
    The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night .

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    Slim Fat Coogan.....let's not forget about her !!
    Even with the usual caveats attached to opinion polls, a 65% to 17% majority for Northern Ireland remaining in the UK suggests little room for doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runwiththewind View Post
    I don't think either Friel or Heaney would consider themselves from "Ulster", McGuinness on the other hand, is an academic historian. Not sure he falls into the literary genre.

    No, Ulster has not produced the literary writers that the Rep has. "Ulster" has not produced a Beckett, O'Casey or Joyce.

    Those writing today, James Patterson is no Joseph O'Connor.
    friel , born in Tyrone ! Schooled in Derry ; Heaney , born in Antrim, schooled in Derry ; Mcguinness born Donegal .....how could they not consider themselves of 'Ulster '
    mcguinness is a magical playwright.
    The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurdiev View Post
    friel , born in Tyrone ! Schooled in Derry ; Heaney , born in Antrim, schooled in Derry ; Mcguinness born Donegal .....how could they not consider themselves of 'Ulster '
    mcguinness is a magical playwright.
    Beckett - schooled in Fermanagh

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    Quote Originally Posted by runwiththewind View Post
    I don't think either Friel or Heaney would consider themselves from "Ulster", McGuinness on the other hand, is an academic historian. Not sure he falls into the literary genre.

    No, Ulster has not produced the literary writers that the Rep has. "Ulster" has not produced a Beckett, O'Casey or Joyce.

    Those writing today, James Patterson is no Joseph O'Connor.
    Friel, Heaney and McGuinness would consider themselves as both Irish, and from Ulster in a broader sense, I'm pretty sure.
    As for Patterson, don't you mean Glenn rather than James? James is an American thriller writer. O'Connor, Patterson, Friel, Heaney and Friel are all members of Aosdána along with McGuinness. All five are considered to be writers. Just because McGuinness is also a full-time academic doesn't disqualify him any more than Heaney who was also employed full time in the same way.
    I'm not sure that O'Connor is any more talented than Patterson, btw. O'Connor is too smug for his own good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Boy View Post
    Friel, Heaney and McGuinness would consider themselves as both Irish, and from Ulster in a broader sense, I'm pretty sure.
    As for Patterson, don't you mean Glenn rather than James? James is an American thriller writer. O'Connor, Patterson, Friel, Heaney and Friel are all members of Aosdána along with McGuinness. All five are considered to be writers. Just because McGuinness is also a full-time academic doesn't disqualify him any more than Heaney who was also employed full time in the same way.
    I'm not sure that O'Connor is any more talented than Patterson, btw. O'Connor is too smug for his own good.
    O'Connor is one of the best writers in the English language. Glen Patterson is not. There is no comparison between O'Connor's "The Sea" and Patterson's "The Mill for Grinding Old People Young". O' Connor's is a classic, Patterson's is readable, just.

    Not sure Friel or Heaney consider themselves "Ulster" in the hijacked political sense. Both considered themselves just Irish.
    If we got rid of all the papists, there'd be no trouble whatsoever. The place will be nirvana. Schomberg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    Beckett - schooled in Fermanagh
    But educated in the Rep.
    If we got rid of all the papists, there'd be no trouble whatsoever. The place will be nirvana. Schomberg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurdiev View Post
    Do they put something in the water in Donegal andcTyrone to produce literary giants like Friel , Heaney , Mcguinness.
    All three have links to Derry city. Friel lived and worked there, alongside Stephen Rea in the Field Day Theatre Co. in the 70's and 80's (possibly still does), and the latter two went to St. Columb's College.

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