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Thread: BBC Debate: "Europe should shut the door on immigration".

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    Default BBC Debate: "Europe should shut the door on immigration".

    Interesting debate on the influx of both legal and illegal immigrants from Asia and Africa into Europe.



    In collaboration with the BBC World News and the Onassis Cultural Centre, Intelligence Squared Greece is staging a singularly topical debate on Europe’s economy, politics and society.
    Almost 10% of the inhabitants of the European Union do not live in the country in which they were born—a percentage that equates to over 37 million people [1].
    Although Europe is now entering its eighth year of economic crisis, the waves of immigration from Asia and Africa continue unabated.

    http://www.sgt.gr/en/programme/event/1044


    Speaking for the motion:
    • Douglas Murray, author, director of the Henry Jackson Society
    • Makis Voridis, MP, former Minister for Infrastructure, Transportation and Networks

    Speakers against the motion:
    • Bernard Kouchner, former Foreign Minister of France, co-founder of Médecins Sans Frontières and Médecins du Monde
    • Antigone Lyberaki, Professor of Economics at Panteion University, Board member of ActionAid Greece

    Chair: Nik Gowing, journalist with BBC World News

    The speakers in favor of immigration claim that Europe needs immigrants and that Europeans have a moral obligation to accept them, while the side against immigration claims that European and national identities are lost if we don't put a hold on immigration.

    The debate is held in Greece, coincidentally the country where most immigrants enter Europe and where the extreme right is rapidly growing. Is it time to pull the drawbridge up?

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    I think tighter controls are a small price to pay to prevent the rise to power of Fascism/National Socialism in Europe. The economic crisis is also a wakeup call of the dangers that come from reducing nation states to the status of mere markets without cultural sensitivities.
    Fair and Balanced

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    But how would the globalist , race to the bottom agenda be served by such archaic notions as national integrity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTallaghtban View Post
    Almost 10% of the inhabitants of the European Union do not live in the country in which they were born—a percentage that equates to over 37 million people
    Ireland generated probably the largest peacetime migration over the last two centuries. You can't claim that the US, UK and Australia haven't benefited from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    I think tighter controls are a small price to pay to prevent the rise to power of Fascism/National Socialism in Europe. The economic crisis is also a wakeup call of the dangers that come from reducing nation states to the status of mere markets without cultural sensitivities.
    And they get free prams too.
    Racism = fear, low self-esteem and breath-taking ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev408 View Post
    And they get free prams too.
    You saying they don't?
    At some point the gloves must come off and we face our adversaries.
    We're all Rhodesians now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev408 View Post
    And they get free prams too.
    And countless other benefits. We are bankrupt, we simply can't afford any more of this nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    Ireland generated probably the largest peacetime migration over the last two centuries.
    You can't claim that the US and Australia haven't benefited from that.
    The native populations would probably disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyelight View Post
    You saying they don't?
    Oh god no. Every single immigrant into Ireland gets free prams - even the single men. They're useful for going around to collect their 'countless other benefits'.
    Racism = fear, low self-esteem and breath-taking ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev408 View Post
    And they get free prams too.
    If an asylum seeker has young children but is still in the asylum process - who purchases essentials like buggies etc for her?

    The state, thats who. Not that I really give a fiddlers - but its not a myth.

    Anyway, this is off topic. EU member states welcomed in 3.1 million legal non EU immigrants in 2010. How many illegals, nobody knows. Is this sustainable considering the unemployment problem that many member states face?

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