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    Default Tanya Doyle sentenced to life for stabbing husband 60 times

    Tanya Doyle killed her husband Paul Byrne with a knife, stabbing and slashing him over sixty times.

    It wasn’t the first time she had stabbed her husband, who she was separated from, but no action had been taken against her, it is not clear whether this was the husbands wishes or because the police never pressed the issue. It seems even though they were separated he still allowed her to stay overnight in his home.

    She worked "as a glamour model, a prostitute and later ran an escort agency, the court was told" and was unhappy with the outcome of a court case regarding property. She also told a psychiatrist that she expected more money for a story sold to a paper about "being a high-class hooker." Money seemed to be a defining feature of her motivations.

    Paul Byrne managed to phone the emergency services while he was being stabbed/slashed to death. An 8 minute recording includes him pleading with his wife, telling her he loved her and begging her not to kill him and finally pleading to let him die without any more torture.

    This man had a truly terrible death. His brother had to identify his mutilated body and his family had to hear his voice on the recording. It seems the whole family are traumatized by the brutality suffered by their brother, the length of time it has taken to get justice and the loss of their loved one.

    During the trial, Tanya Doyle showed no remorse for the murder. She told the guards who called to the house in response to the call that she had stabbed him 60 times because "I wanted a fresh start with decent money, he wouldn’t sign over the house.” She is alleged to have told a psychiatrist in 2001 that she would kill her husband and claim insanity as a means of escaping being held responsible. Tanya Doyle has been sentenced to life in prison for murder, she tried to get off on manslaughter.

    I doubt anyone will say this is anything other than a heinous crime. My point in discussing this is the lack of media articles condemning the violence, than say if the roles were reversed and it was a man killing his wife in a similar manner.

    We treat of male on female violence far more harshly than female on male violence. This would seem to be the case in the context of violence within an intimate relationship.

    Men are generally much stronger than women are and have historically been in positions of power over women, perhaps hence the need for organisations dealing specifically with violence against women. But women can also be physically, mentally abusive,here we have an example that led to murder. Yet where is the outcry? Where are the articles that are usually written by columnists and commentators to accompany the murder of a wife? Is there a possibility that as a society, Irish people do not take violence seriously unless its perpetrated by a man?

    Tanya Doyle found guilty of husband

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakin...al-587872.html

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime...band-1.1327434
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    Quote Originally Posted by Druidess View Post
    Is there a possibility that as a society, Irish people do not take violence seriously unless its perpetrated by a man?
    Spontaneous crimes of passion by either sex are generally recognised as such by the courts, and a certain amount of leniency is applied as a result. It wasn't the case here and the court recognised that.
    Speaking as a man, I'd confidently guess that most inter-sex relationship violence is perpetrated bymale upon female, but clearly not all. I think that our legal system from the bottom to the top has a grasp of this as well. Whether they can identify the culprit in every case is doubtful though.

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    Let us not forget that we had the case of the man who killed his child recently before killing himself, where the predominant story in the media was of 'the good Dad'.

    Crimes need to be called what they are in the media.
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    Could have been an accident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopdoingstuff View Post
    Could have been an accident.
    I think it's Rural who usually says this, but stop doing stuff!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radix View Post
    Let us not forget that we had the case of the man who killed his child recently before killing himself, where the predominant story in the media was of 'the good Dad'.

    Crimes need to be called what they are in the media.
    Ahem,, Tanya did not kill herself after the sadistic murder of her husband ?? your comparisons are simply not valid.
    She will probably be out on Tuesday with good behavior and all that lark, just turn it around for a mo,

    Criminal that ran brothels etc stabs his wife 60 times in a frenzy even though his wife begged him that she loved him etc, now bear in mind your equality views ?

    This Judgement is biased, ridiculous, and the message is simple, if you are a scumbag and you are a woman then don't worry about stabbing your husband 60 times. There is no other conclusion,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druidess View Post
    Is there a possibility that as a society, Irish people do not take violence seriously unless its perpetrated by a man?
    Is there a "possibility"??!! No doubt whatsoever.

    The Death Penalty is perfectly appropriate in a case such as this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alloverbartheshouting View Post
    I think it's Rural who usually says this, but stop doing stuff!!!!
    Fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramps View Post
    Is there a "possibility"??!! No doubt whatsoever.

    The Death Penalty is perfectly appropriate in a case such as this.
    In principle, I'd agree with the death penalty in exceptional circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmaticapproach View Post
    In principle, I'd agree with the death penalty in exceptional circumstances.
    It's hard to think of a more gruesome killing, I'm sure you'll agree.

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