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    Default Jean Claude Juncker: "Europe's demons are only sleeping"

    A senior European politician has made the extraordinary claim that resentment of Germany by the Mediterranean countries has "chilling" parallels with complacency in 1913 that led to the First World War.
    The way in which some political figures in Germany had been criticised in Greece has left "deep wounds" Mr Juncker said. He said the Italian election was also "excessively hostile to Germany and therefore anti-European".


    Jean Claude Juncker: Europe's demons are only sleeping - Telegraph

    Have to confess I'm not a Junkbag fan myself - bit of a clown...



    Is Junkbag on the right track regarding Germany?

    Is Merko merely now ensuring that Germany is surrounded by a wall of hate?

    German Banks are in bad shape & their hidden Debt mountain is a Discussion I'll return to at another juncture.

    We know that a new Anti-EU Party has started in Germany- this might come to something or nothing.

    Has the Euro Crisis instigated an Antebellum after which the "Fatherland" will once more become The Target????

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    You have an ability to start threads whereby the opening line has nothing to do whatsoever with the final line. Adds in some pictures for good measure too.
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    Yeah- right...

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    There was an interesting interview on RTE last week about the scale of debt that the United Nations allowed Germany to write off after the WW2, including a huge chunk of the WW1 debt.

    Germany has made it clear that the still believe in "Deutschland über alles" because, it seems, their banks are right when everyone elses' banks were wrong and they're relatively happy to make everyone else pay their banks gambling debts.

    If the UN hadn't cajoled counties into writing off the debt Germany would probably still be an economic backwater.

    That's bound to earn a little resentment, to be fair.
    The more things change....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    There was an interesting interview on RTE last week about the scale of debt that the United Nations allowed Germany to write off after the WW2, including a huge chunk of the WW1 debt.

    Germany has made it clear that the still believe in "Deutschland über alles" because, it seems, their banks are right when everyone elses' banks were wrong and they're relatively happy to make everyone else pay their banks gambling debts.

    If the UN hadn't cajoled counties into writing off the debt Germany would probably still be an economic backwater.

    That's bound to earn a little resentment, to be fair.
    If they hadn't written off the war debt, Germany would have probably geared up for round 3.

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    German Banks are in bad shape & their hidden Debt mountain is a Discussion I'll return to at another juncture.

    Bring it on!


    it seems, their banks are right when everyone elses' banks were wrong and they're relatively happy to make everyone else pay their banks gambling debts.


    Yep.

    It's about the whole charade of Germany's efficiency, sweetness and innocence is blown clean away. The trouble is that the country is still seen through the prism of WWII when in fact the national traits we associate with them can be traced back far further than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Murphy View Post
    If they hadn't written off the war debt, Germany would have probably geared up for round 3.
    Germany would have been turned into the worlds biggest carpark by the yanks. More is the pity they did'nt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddiefly View Post
    Not if they as well as japan had been put back to the stoneage which is exactly what should have happened to them
    Not really. Thats what the attempted post WW1 and was one of the causes of WW2.

    While I can entirely appreciate that Japans denial of their dark history is shameful, why should they or Germany have been put back to the stone age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddiefly View Post
    Not if they as well as japan had been put back to the stoneage which is exactly what should have happened to them
    Between the end of the war and the start of the Marshal Plan Britain wanted to cap Germany's steel production to 12m tonnes, France wanted a figure of 3m tonnes imposed instead, but they never did get on with their neighbour. A lot of German factories that weren't bombed were actually dismantled by the allies to try and keep the country in its place.

    Japan recovered remarkably well for a country with little in the way of natural resources. The history of Honda has been widely written about and offers a window into how it happened, a strong home market for a product in short supply was the company's saviour. Like Japan, Ireland has no real natural resources but unlike them it hasn't a massive home market for any particular product.
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