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Thread: Should governments create a DNA/Finger Print database of all citizens?

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    Default Should governments create a DNA/Finger Print database of all citizens?

    So what do you think? A database of DNA/Finger prints of all citizens of a country to try eradicate crime levels.
    If you have nothing to hide, well you have nothing to fear. It's a fairly straight foward question, was out today for Mothers day and was talking about this with some friends and family, a database of all citizens DNA/Finger Prints. I'm not going to create a long OP, as I have no real issue with the concept.

    A good idea, or an intrusion too far? It would bring down crime levels surely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sport02 View Post
    So what do you think? A database of DNA/Finger prints of all citizens of a country to try eradicate crime levels.
    If you have nothing to hide, well you have nothing to fear. It's a fairly straight foward question, out today for Mothers day and was talking about this with some friends and family, a database of all citizens DNA/Finger Prints. I'm not going to create a long OP, as I have no real issue with the concept.

    A good idea, or an intrusion too far? It would bring down crime.
    Oh I could imagine - some staff member trying to sell the info to dubious private dicks who are working for other dubious companies.

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    Yes, an intrusion too far.
    At 12 weeks the “clump of cells” toes curl, her mouth makes sucking movements, she has a human face and if you prod the tummy she will move in response

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    You could begin by hooking up all Government ministers to portable lie detection kits. Start at the top and work down. Feel free to include all bankers, bond holders and major share holders in your scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sport02 View Post
    So what do you think? A database of DNA/Finger prints of all citizens of a country to try eradicate crime levels.
    If you have nothing to hide, well you have nothing to fear. It's a fairly straight foward question, was out today for Mothers day and was talking about this with some friends and family, a database of all citizens DNA/Finger Prints. I'm not going to create a long OP, as I have no real issue with the concept.

    A good idea, or an intrusion too far? It would bring down crime levels surely.
    Would it actually help reduce crime levels? The vast majority of crime in Ireland doesn't involve DNA or fingerprint evidence at all. For example; public order offenses, fraud, most theft, etc.

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    Why ?

    Even when the authorities know who committed the crime, there is no place in the prisons to keep them !!!

    And apart from anything else, the Irish state is so corrupt, that the relevant information could be stolen and used to plant somebody.

    How would McBrearty dealt with this ?

    It does not take DNA analysis to see what went wrong with the biggest theivery of all - the abuse of the taxpayers money to bail out gamblers, and to prop up useless quangos.
    Coveney's ambition is the be Ireland's next EU Commissar and Ireland will pay a price as he builds his CV to position himself sufficiently loyal to the nEU empire.

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    Sure why not micro chip babies at birth! The prisons can not cope with the amount of criminals they have already , with out pinpointing the person who committed a crime. Then we could get rid of the Gardaí and renamed them DNA catcher control , and spend a couple of million on signage. As for combating fraud, it's seems if caught defrauding SW here means , a small payment return on what your entitled to claim, instead of cutting off from SW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    Would it actually help reduce crime levels? The vast majority of crime in Ireland doesn't involve DNA or fingerprint evidence at all. For example; public order offenses, fraud, most theft, etc.
    I don't have any statistics on crime in this country, but what if it eradicated or brought to justice the very serious crimes alot more.

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    The biggest problem with Irelands justice system is that most criminals dont fear prison. They don't see it as a punishment.

    We need to rethink the whole concept.

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    . . .and just like the water meters the government will make you pay for your own DNA test.

    Following on from which the announcement of a "telomere levy" will occur in Budget 2014

    Special tax rates will be setup liable to every citizen of the state where increasing taxation rates will occur at a rate inversely proportional to telomere shortening at the end of a specific chromosome (yet to be determined by the Minister for Finance)

    This will allow Noonan and Kenny to say "our plan is working" as the state takes control of the wallets of the serfs citizens.

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