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Thread: Why has there never been a strong left wing cause in Ireland?

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    Default Why has there never been a strong left wing cause in Ireland?

    Ireland is unique in Europe and the World for not having a left-right political divide. Civil war politics being a reason but also because the left have never been a strong cause or have had a strong base here. Historically the strongest left leaning party has been the Labour Party yet they only average 10% of the vote in most elections. On average left leaning parties manage together 20% of the vote in elections while the rest is carved up by centre right parties Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael and independents.

    So why has there never been a strong left wing cause in Ireland?

    -Civil war politics as already mentioned
    -Irish society having an overall conservative outlook?
    -The influence of the Catholic Church on society? Related to part 2
    -The top left leaning party Labour constantly going into government with right leaning Fine Gael?

    I think the left have had their chances to displace civil war politics in favour of a left right divide but circumstances dictated that it didn't happen. Like 1948 when a Fine Gael party on it's knees was saved by the split in the Labour Party and Clann na Poblachta being forced into a snap election when their relatively new organisation wasn't ready. Maybe Labour could have overtaken Fine Gael in 1969 but the red scare played up by Fianna Fáil(an example of Irish society being conservative) killed the Labour vote in rural Ireland and perhaps 1992 was a chance as well to overtake Fine Gael had Labour ran more candidates.
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    No industrial base.
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    The national question.

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    The Irish don't do left-right.

    They vote for the party (regardless of their form or performance) who promises to put money into their pockets and feck the consequences.

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    Because the Looper Party has been the party backed by the unions, and held a monopoly position in the left, alternative left wing parties are up against that.

    Basically unions have controlled the left.

    The reason why the left never reached a certain scale of political power ? Becuase the muppets holding the local franchise were monumentally incompetent. And that incompetence was passed from one generation to the next.
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    When the leader of the official left wong party, has a missus selling sites to the state for half a million, it is kind of obvious that socialism is just a means for self-enrichment.
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    Labour did quite well in an election in the early 1920's.
    Church influence was a big one.
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    FF would make the case that they were the strong left wing cause, especially as they took a lot of votes from the lower paid. Lemass used to say that there was no need for an Irish Labour Party because FF already occupied that niche.

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