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Thread: Enda Kenny's Proposed 'Suicide Abortion' Legislation and Surrogacy Ruling.

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    Default Enda Kenny's Proposed 'Suicide Abortion' Legislation and Surrogacy Ruling.

    Given that The High Court has said that the genetic mother of an unborn child is in legal fact the mother of the child, where now Kenny's proposed legislation on abortion on the basis of expressed suicidal ideation?

    If a surrogate mother expresses such an ideation, will the real mother have to be consulted before the State facilitates the abortion of her child?

    Can such a mother take a case against the State for ending her child's life?


    Surrogate's sister wins landmark ruling to be recognised legally as mum of twins - Independent.ie

    Irish government announces plans to legalize abortion, with limits | National Catholic Reporter

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0305/372757-surrogate/
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    How often is that scenario likely to happen? It's a good hypothetical question I suppose, but don't you think there's more pressing issues to discuss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radix View Post
    Given that The High Court has said that the genetic mother of an unborn child is in legal fact the mother of the child, where now Kenny's proposed legislation on abortion on the basis of expressed suicidal ideation?
    on this site I venture there will be posts from extremists on both sides of the debate making ever ever-increasing insane and unsustainable arguments - the 80% of the population out there who have no time fro either extreme will get on with their lives and leave private matters between doctors and patients where they belong- in private and based on medical evidence.

    as regards your hypothetical question for the courts - they may find in favour-against or they may never have it come before them or they may or the sun may rise in the west
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radix View Post
    Given that The High Court has said that the genetic mother of an unborn child is in legal fact the mother of the child, where now Kenny's proposed legislation on abortion on the basis of expressed suicidal ideation?

    If a surrogate mother expresses such an ideation, will the real mother have to be consulted before the State facilitates the abortion of her child?

    Can such a mother take a case against the State for ending her child's life?


    Surrogate's sister wins landmark ruling to be recognised legally as mum of twins - Independent.ie

    Irish government announces plans to legalize abortion, with limits | National Catholic Reporter
    I don't get it. The genetic mother is in the same boat as the genetic father and gets no say.

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    Of course if people think the genetic mother should get a say then they are also acknowledging that a father should also get a say under normal circumstances.

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    Heavy stuff for this hour of the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by commonman View Post
    Heavy stuff for this hour of the night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radix View Post
    Given that The High Court has said that the genetic mother of an unborn child is in legal fact the mother of the child, where now Kenny's proposed legislation on abortion on the basis of expressed suicidal ideation?

    If a surrogate mother expresses such an ideation, will the real mother have to be consulted before the State facilitates the abortion of her child?

    Can such a mother take a case against the State for ending her child's life?


    Surrogate's sister wins landmark ruling to be recognised legally as mum of twins - Independent.ie

    Irish government announces plans to legalize abortion, with limits | National Catholic Reporter
    I may be reading your Indo link incorrectly but can you direct me to where there is any mention of an 'unborn child'.
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    Birth Certificates are issued after the birth of the child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgellons View Post
    How often is that scenario likely to happen? It's a good hypothetical question I suppose, but don't you think there's more pressing issues to discuss?

    The most "pressing issues" are always 'the life issues' you'll have to agree, and this question is a rather obvious one for the Government given its recently announced intent on legalising suicide abortions.

    Will the legal mother now have to be asked for her opinion on the termination of her child in a case where the surrogate says she is suicidal?

    I think that there is no doubt but that she will have to be, and this is only the beginning of the legal quagmire being excavated by the Taoiseach, post his announcement of legislating for abortion in circumstances such as these.
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