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Thread: Private schools have up to seven times more funds available to them compared to schools in the state sector

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    Default Private schools have up to seven times more funds available to them compared to schools in the state sector

    It has come to light following findings from the McCarthy report, that students in fee-paying schools are allocated, on average €5,281 in spend on additional teachers, capital improvements and extra-curricular activities, per student.

    The average grant per student in non-fee-paying schools is €507 annually. The difference in average payment rises to ten times as high if you compare the funding of the top the nine most expensive fee-paying schools.

    If fee-paying schools are that much more expensive to run, then maybe in these austere times, these schools should be forced to reassess their budgets. Irish private schools have quite low fees in comparison to other countries. Take on top of that the fact that it is quite unusual for a state to pay the salaries of teachers of private schools.

    As Mrs Antoinette once wasn't recorded as saying 'Let them eat cake'.


    Fee-paying pupils have seven times more funds - The Irish Times - Tue, Mar 05, 2013

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    Just wondering...but how much of this is money spent on academic objectives....and how much is money spent on better facilities for "bread and circuses" ?

    We are living the aftermath of the era of a Taoiseach who said his only regret was not being able to waste a billion euro on a colloseum complex.
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    It's not clear from your OP, but the extra funding the fee-paying schools have is the fees paid by parents.
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    And no doubt the usual suspects will be along shortly to claim vociferously that the taxation is subsidising private schools - there is a thread somewhere on p.ie that thrashes out all the old arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howya View Post
    And no doubt the usual suspects will be along shortly to claim vociferously that the taxation is subsidising private schools - there is a thread somewhere on p.ie that thrashes out all the old arguments.
    There's probably a thread on any issue you can think of that thrashes out all the old arguments ad nauseum...

    So the real question is... why are we here banging our heads off virtual walls?

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    Bad thread title; private schools have up to seven times the resources for extracurricular activities.

    Still, shocking enough, considering they're all heavily subsidised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howya View Post
    And no doubt the usual suspects will be along shortly to claim vociferously that the taxation is subsidising private schools - there is a thread somewhere on p.ie that thrashes out all the old arguments.
    As it should - Tax is there to provide aggregated services for TAXPAYERS. So the more tax you pay the more your school should get.
    But for equality purposes lets agree that everyone should get the same payback in terms of services from the tax system.
    So if the tax payer wants to augment his schools funds with donations or fees then so be it.

    We need to get away from the idea the tax system is a charity - if it where you could claim your Tax back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howya View Post
    And no doubt the usual suspects will be along shortly to claim vociferously that the taxation is subsidising private schools - there is a thread somewhere on p.ie that thrashes out all the old arguments.

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    http://www.politics.ie/forum/educati...thers-bad.html
    That's correct. The state heavily subsidises private schools. It pays their teachers, for goodness sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asparagus View Post
    So the more tax you pay the more your school should get.
    You don't understand taxation, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanner Island View Post
    There's probably a thread on any issue you can think of that thrashes out all the old arguments ad nauseum...

    So the real question is... why are we here banging our heads off virtual walls?
    In the futile hope, that someone, somewhere, will be persuaded by a well reasoned argument to abandon their dearly held, but myopic view
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