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Thread: FF hit tax payer for almost €500K for Moriarity Tribunal cost

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    Default FF hit tax payer for almost €500K for Moriarity Tribunal cost

    Despite the adverse findings against many FF councillors in the Moriarity Tribunal it seems the legal team handling the matter for FF have been paid almost €500k on Christmas Eve. Given the impact of cuts to the diabled and the forceful manner in which FF attacked the govt is taken as a given that the party will return the money to the state and ask that it would be spent on the disabled?

    FF gets €495,000 for Moriarty tribunal - The Irish Times - Mon, Mar 04, 2013

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    The eFFing traitors - the party that just keeps on taking.

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    Can't wait for the reaction when we're told that all of Ahern's legal costs will be paid for by Sean P. Citizen. I'm no lawyer, but if Liam Lawlor's widow got her costs, I can't see how the misLeader won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeViking View Post
    Can't wait for the reaction when we're told that all of Ahern's legal costs will be paid for by Sean P. Citizen. I'm no lawyer, but if Liam Lawlor's widow got her costs, I can't see how the misLeader won't.
    EVERYONE will get their costs.

    And still we voted No on the Oireachtas Investigations referendum.
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    In fairness to Fianna Fáil, as in the political party itself as a corporate entity, they didn't attempt to disrupt, impede, hinder or mislead the Tribunal in the way that others did, so were probably far moire deserving of costs than other parties who were represented.

    This is a total contrast with Bertie Ahern, who committed perjury on a massive scale, launched many legal battles against the Mahon tribunal, and conspired widely with other witnesses in order to get their story "straight" in a deliberate attempt to impede its investigations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astral Peaks View Post
    EVERYONE will get their costs.

    And still we voted No on the Oireachtas Investigations referendum.
    I wonder is it a co-incidence that the referendum turned because of the efforts of the former Attorneys General, many of whom now extract enormous sums from their work at the courts including tribunals?

    Irish voters are a stupid, stupid group of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astral Peaks View Post
    EVERYONE will get their costs.

    And still we voted No on the Oireachtas Investigations referendum.
    Did I read that Denis O Brien and Lowrys costs will also be paid ? Surely not ,in view of the damning findings against them by Judge Moriarty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanner Island View Post
    The eFFing traitors - the party that just keeps on taking.
    Why shouldn't FF get its costs?

    Do you think that everybody who appeared before the Moriarty Tribunal should be forced to pay their own legal costs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by olamp View Post
    Did I read that Denis O Brien and Lowrys costs will also be paid ? Surely not ,in view of the damning findings against them by Judge Moriarty?
    I don't know if they will.

    But IIRC the issue of costs was not related to the ultimate findings, as the tribunal was merely a fact finding operation, rather than a court as such. As long as the tribunal was satisfied that a party before it cooperated, that party is entitled to its costs (I think).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astral Peaks View Post
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    And still we voted No on the Oireachtas Investigations referendum.
    And rightly so. A whipped committee investigating former/opposition politicians is littered with potential bias.

    The new form Commissions of Investigations which do not require oral hearings (or politicians) are far more effective, fairer and cheaper.
    The Department of Justice and Equality: Commissions of Investigation

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