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    A young man is fighting for his life because the HSE has refused to fund a trip to New York for a “one last chance” t
    treatment.
    After three years of battling it in Ireland, and the cancer showing further progression despite surgery in 2011 and 2012, James’ doctors recommended that he attempt to gain admission to Sloan-Kettering.
    They are operating a clinical trial, testing a approach to treating James’ disease.
    The treatment that could save James’ life would cost €80,000.
    A HSE spokesperson said: “The HSE Treatment Scheme, as provided under EU Regulations in conjunction with the Department of Health and Children guidelines, allows access to proven treatment in the public healthcare system of an EU member state for approved patients.”
    James’s mother, Geraldine Gill, said: “They told us they don’t provide funding for treatment on trial.
    “But we have tried everything that is available in Ireland. James has just this one last chance."


    The HSE's own protocol for expenditure on treatment for seriously ill patients is that expenditure on treatment is justified if there is a reasonable chance that the patient will live for another year with a reasonable quality of life.
    I believe this protocol actually takes priority over their policy on not funding clinical trials.
    I wonder has it in this instance?

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    How can you show there's a reasonable chance? By the very nature of the fact that it's on trial, it hasn't been shown to work to the US's standards. The govt can't go around funding trips around the world for clinical trials. From the article it seems like the only call really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    The govt can't go around funding trips around the world for clinical trials. . .
    But it can fund nearly 2 million medical cards?

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    How sad a day would it be if more people had died or suffered serious illnesses because this trip was paid for and the treatment failed?

    When you have limited resources, you have to prioritize which means that some people will die who might otherwise have lived. The hope is resources will be distributed in a way which minimizes this.
    Repeal the 27th.

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    The two aren't related here. The HSE aren't pleading poverty, they're saying it's the wrong thing to do because clinical trials are unproven.
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    Take it out of Bertie's pension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    But it can fund nearly 2 million medical cards?

    Or love ins in Brazil for junket loving leeches.

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    Its far more important to treat binge drinkers in A & E on a Friday and Saturday night isn't it.

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    yet they give millions to GPs every year

    the doctors payments from the HSE in 2010,
    the biggest payment was 846,517 euros.

    check out your local doctor here

    http://www.hse.ie/eng/staff/PCRS/PCR...octors2010.pdf
    Why is the Legal Profession still SELF REGULATED in the year 2015, this is a crazy situation.

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    The Gov has backed down on these matters before when the public outcry was loud enough.
    Hopefully this is one way of aiding that effort.

    To those who say clinical trials are unproven, they always will remain unproven unless patients get the opportunity of testing it out.

    Ireland should become proactive in this area rather than sitting back and allowing young people to die without offering a last chance.
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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