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    A new report from the Central Statistics Office shows a huge fall off in the numbers of foreign nationals coming to Ireland seeking work. Just 58,300 foreigners of working age got PPSN numbers in 2011. This is compared to 204,000 in 2006. From 2002-2011 we truly became a diverse, multicultural country with 1.148 million foreigners of working age coming to Ireland and being allocated PPSN numbers.

    Possibly the most interesting part of the report demolishes the racist myth that immigrants only come for the welfare:

    The CSO report on Foreign Nationals shows that the huge drop-off in employment levels since 2006 has not resulted in a corresponding increase in social welfare claims.

    Only 28pc of those allocated PPSN numbers that year were claiming welfare in 2011.

    And that number would include thousands of parents whose only welfare claim was for child benefit payments.

    Among migrants who came here in 2011, social welfare uptake was just 9pc.

    The Integration Centre, which works with immigrants, said the report debunks the myth about high numbers of migrants on social welfare.
    - See more at: 1m migrants arrived but only 25pc still working here in 2011 - Independent.ie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Herron View Post
    A new report from the Central Statistics Office shows a huge fall off in the numbers of foreign nationals coming to Ireland seeking work.
    I remember there used to be any amount of advertisements for job opportunities in Ireland in the service of the international corporations who had settled in Ireland due to, ahem, encouraging business environment. As I got it, they were mainly looking for native speakers of different European languages to work in the customer service.

    There probably isn't any statistics about the nationalities of the immigrants and their respective rates of employment?

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    Well this is 2013. This statistics pertain to 2006-11.
    Real News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Herron View Post
    A new report from the Central Statistics Office shows a huge fall off in the numbers of foreign nationals coming to Ireland seeking work. Just 58,300 foreigners of working age got PPSN numbers in 2011. This is compared to 204,000 in 2006. From 2002-2011 we truly became a diverse, multicultural country with 1.148 million foreigners of working age coming to Ireland and being allocated PPSN numbers.

    Possibly the most interesting part of the report demolishes the racist myth that immigrants only come for the welfare:
    The article you have quoted says.

    Only 58,300 foreigners of working age were assigned PPSN numbers in 2011, compared with almost 204,000 in 2006. And just 21,800 of them got jobs,
    So 36 500 non-Irish came here in the teeth of the worst recession ever and had no job. You know what people will say Don don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Herron View Post
    A new report from the Central Statistics Office shows a huge fall off in the numbers of foreign nationals coming to Ireland seeking work. Just 58,300 foreigners of working age got PPSN numbers in 2011. This is compared to 204,000 in 2006. From 2002-2011 we truly became a diverse, multicultural country with 1.148 million foreigners of working age coming to Ireland and being allocated PPSN numbers.

    Possibly the most interesting part of the report demolishes the racist myth that immigrants only come for the welfare:
    by coincidence was reading them stats last night. could not fokin believe the following quote......
    "Of the 1,148,800 foreign nationals aged 15 and over who received
    PPSNs in the period 2002–2011, 310,400 recorded some employment
    in Ireland during 2011".

    facepalm wouldnt even scratch the surface.

    if 1,148,800 were over 15, how many were under 15?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddiefly View Post

    You do know its saturday ?, you do know our resident racists like a good lie in and a big breakfast on saturdays ? you do realise you have just ruined their day ?
    The good Don is a racist himself, don't you know. He proudly proclaimed here once that he chooses which taxi to use on the basis of the skin colour of the driver.
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    The report states: In 2011, 37% of foreign nationals with new PPSNs had employment activity during the year.

    How does this debunk anything unless you have comparative statistics of welfare receipt by place of birth?

    One in five unemployed in 2011 were non Irish nationals TheJournal.ie

    According to the CSO the rate of unemployment among non Irish people in 2011 was 22 percent compared with a rate of 18.5 percent among Irish people.
    Nigerians had the highest unemployment rate amongst non nationals at 39 per cent while nationals from the Nordic countries had the lowest rates.
    ..the Irish nation can become other than white, by privileging the voices of the racialised and subverting state immigration but also integration policies. Ronit Lentin

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuque View Post

    by coincidence was reading them stats last night. could not fokin believe the following quote......
    "Of the 1,148,800 foreign nationals aged 15 and over who received
    PPSNs in the period 2002–2011, 310,400 recorded some employment
    in Ireland during 2011".

    facepalm wouldnt even scratch the surface.
    Some of them may no longer be in the state or could be in education. They do look like extraordinary numbers when set against our population.
    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty, than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (yeah, I'm aware of the irony)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuque View Post
    by coincidence was reading them stats last night. could not fokin believe the following quote......
    "Of the 1,148,800 foreign nationals aged 15 and over who received
    PPSNs in the period 2002–2011, 310,400 recorded some employment
    in Ireland during 2011".

    facepalm wouldnt even scratch the surface.

    if 1,148,800 were over 15, how many were under 15?
    And they breed like rabbits.

    The free prams are costing us a fortune.
    I have measured out my life with coffee spoons......

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    Quote Originally Posted by publicrealm View Post

    And they breed like rabbits.

    The free prams are costing us a fortune.
    And then clog up the paths at every bus stop. An average of 93 prams a week were gathered off the streets of Galway last year.
    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty, than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (yeah, I'm aware of the irony)

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