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    Ok, people. I have a question regarding the septic tanks furore.
    Could a demand by the EU or the Department of the Environment to upgrade an EXISTING septic tank be construed as being illegal as it is an application of retrospective legislation?
    To digress slightly, but only slightly, the government has made the argument that it cannot take retrospective action in relation to such as bankers pensions or lump sums, etc. So how can a demand to upgrade that which was perfectly legal at the time of its construction be legally enforceable?
    I could well understand and give a grudging support to the notion that from the time of the directive being implemented, that henceforth all new dwellings be subject to the new standard, but not, as I say, retrospective actions. Otherwise what new demands could be made for principle residences or indeed other aspects to our lives?
    I don't know for certain what is the correct answer, but I would like to throw it open to the floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ticketyboo View Post
    Ok, people. I have a question regarding the septic tanks furore.
    Could a demand by the EU or the Department of the Environment to upgrade an EXISTING septic tank be construed as being illegal as it is an application of retrospective legislation?
    To digress slightly, but only slightly, the government has made the argument that it cannot take retrospective action in relation to such as bankers pensions or lump sums, etc. So how can a demand to upgrade that which was perfectly legal at the time of its construction be legally enforceable?
    I could well understand and give a grudging support to the notion that from the time of the directive being implemented, that henceforth all new dwellings be subject to the new standard, but not, as I say, retrospective actions. Otherwise what new demands could be made for principle residences or indeed other aspects to our lives?
    I don't know for certain what is the correct answer, but I would like to throw it open to the floor.
    No tyre kickers, please.

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    I'd say provided there is a reasonable lead time, they probably can force someone to meet new standards. I'm thinking of the introduction of the emission limits in the NCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    I'd say provided there is a reasonable lead time, they probably can force someone to meet new standards. I'm thinking of the introduction of the emission limits in the NCT.
    Interesting..cheers.

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    Time to start dismantling the grotesque dictatorship of the EU.
    Repeal the thirty-fourth amendment of the Irish constitution :
    Children have a basic right to be reared by a mother and a father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Field Marshal View Post
    Time to start dismantling the grotesque dictatorship of the EU.
    Thank you Mattie

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    If governments, local authority planners and house builders of the past had any environmental understanding, we would not have ended up with septic tanks to the unacceptable specifications used for decades.

    Now government gets on its high horse (meat scandal has nothing on this) and demands everyone gets updated with little regard for most of us unable to meet yet another cost of ineptitude.

    Those living on the border found many ways to thwart the customs men so now we should employ similar tactics when inspectors come calling. You would need to come back when the boss is at home is a good one.

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    Another question. Septic tanks are only to be used for waste from toilets . Showers , kitchen waste water [dish washers etc] require a separate pipe leading towards a soak pit . In that case if a person's septic tank fails to meet EU legislation and they cannot afford to upgrade do they have the option of opening a latrine in their back yard for toilet purposes ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TARZAN View Post
    Another question. Septic tanks are only to be used for waste from toilets . Showers , kitchen waste water [dish washers etc] require a separate pipe leading towards a soak pit . In that case if a person's septic tank fails to meet EU legislation and they cannot afford to upgrade do they have the option of opening a latrine in their back yard for toilet purposes ?

    With respect,I think you might be wrong in that assertion.

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