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    Default Will the Government consult non Union members on CP2?

    The proportion of union members now make up less then 1/3 of Irish Workers. In fact it raises questions about how representative of the Irish Workforce unions now actually are. That does not stop them from being very vocal at the Croke Park Negotiations.

    Could the Government further undermine the Unions by balloting Public Servants who are not members of the Unions?

    Will the Government ballot non union members who are employed by the the State in determining whether a deal is acceptable or otherwise?

    The 70,000 thousand Teachers who work in Primary, Secondary and Third level education will not care if Public Sector Shift workers are targeted for pay cuts with a slashing of shift allowances on the cards. They would much prefer this option rather than increments being slashed to fund savings.

    Many workers simply do not qualify for shift allowance and will want to see cuts focused there rather than targeting basic pay rates. Shift workers will want to see cuts if they are to be made, made to basis pay to spread the cuts accross the full Public service and protect the benefit from premium shift allowances.

    Are the Government deliberately taking a position that will divide the unity of the Union's membership?

    The non unionised segment of the labour market is probably most disposed to new work practices, and being flexible. There must be some benefit in the Government canvassing the views of these workers through a ballot!

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    Why were non union members of the public service not consulted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IbrahaimMohamad View Post
    Why were non union members of the public service not consulted?
    you know nothing troll
    "If we VOTE YES there will be no more austere budgets. Fact " Hammer, mayday 12'

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    Quote Originally Posted by IbrahaimMohamad View Post
    Why were non union members of the public service not consulted?
    Are there any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davoid View Post
    Are there any?
    A decent chunk of the PS, as far as I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by neiphin View Post
    you know nothing troll
    the majority of non union members of the public service would have voted in favour of the agreement.

    1/3 of public sectors workers were not given a say !

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    The level of unionisation of those covered by CP would be very high, probably over 90%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davoid View Post
    Are there any?
    Only 2/3's of public sector workers are in unions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IbrahaimMohamad View Post
    Why were non union members of the public service not consulted?
    the really pertinent question is, if they attempt to solve the issue through higher tax, will the 85% of workers outside the PS get a chance to vote on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davoid View Post
    the really pertinent question is, if they attempt to solve the issue through higher tax, will the 85% of workers outside the PS get a chance to vote on it?
    Vote doesn't arise, it will be implemented through legislation.

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