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    With the current evolution of our understanding of human rights, and in the wake of our tackling of the thorny subject of the historical 'incarceration' of 'the Maggies' for example, one has to wonder what current State practices will prompt apologetic tears by our future leaders.

    Will we have a future Taoiseach apologising for the way we currently treat children in the care of the HSE, or apologising for the way we treat our prisoners, or those in asylum centres to whom we pay €19 a week or the fact that we pay €9.60 a week child benefit for their children, whilst other children within our nation receive benefits many times in excess of this?

    What do ye think fellow posters; has Kenny set a current precedent which might reveal his Government in the future as being hypocritically shallow in some measure, given the above?
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    Taoiseach Mary Lou will be apologizing some day in the future.
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    and straight away the usual suspect tries to derail tread
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishWelshCelt View Post
    Taoiseach Mary Lou will be apologizing some day in the future.

    Indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radix View Post
    With the current evolution of our understanding of human rights, and in the wake of our tackling of the thorny subject of the historical 'incarceration' of 'the Maggies' for example, one has to wonder what current State practices will prompt apologetic tears by our future leaders.

    Will we have a future Taoiseach apologising for the way we currently treat children in the care of the HSE, or apologising for the way we treat our prisoners, or those in asylum centres to whom we pay €19 a week or the fact that we pay €9.60 a week child benefit for their children, whilst other children within our nation receive benefits many times in excess of this?

    What do ye think fellow posters; has Kenny set a current precedent which might reveal his Government in the future as being hypocritically shallow in some measure, given the above?
    And even apart from people directly in the care of/custody of the state, there is the fact that the state pays grants to all sorts of homeless organisations, drug rehabilitation groups, some of them run by religious or quasi religious groups. Residents may be coming back in years time complaining that they were brainwashed, disrespected, or whatever, in some of these places. I think inda has set a bad precedent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talkingshop View Post
    And even apart from people directly in the care of/custody of the state, there is the fact that the state pays grants to all sorts of homeless organisations, drug rehabilitation groups, some of them run by religious or quasi religious groups. Residents may be coming back in years time complaining that they were brainwashed, disrespected, or whatever, in some of these places. I think inda has set a bad precedent.

    To me it is utterly shallow and quite hypocritical of the Government to on one hand shed tears at excavated dysfunction, whilst simultaneously engaging in grave dysfunction itself.

    How can it be right for such upholders of moral principle on behalf of the State to throw an ever reducing sum of money to the voluntary quasi religious sector to contain ever increasing problems caused by the neglect of the State itself.

    How can it be right to throw someone homeless out of prison with €50 in their pocket which will be píssed up against a wall within two hours? Surely the least we owe to those who have lost their dignity is to help them find it again while 'in the care' of our prison service. The only people who seem to care about human dignity at all are those who are not paid to in the voluntary organisations.

    You will notice Kenny didn't finger any politicians in his tears for fears speech. I hope a future Taoiseach highlights the hypocrisy of those politicians who engage in retrospective weeping for past sins but fail miserably to face up to present failings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radix View Post
    With the current evolution of our understanding of human rights, and in the wake of our tackling of the thorny subject of the historical 'incarceration' of 'the Maggies' for example, one has to wonder what current State practices will prompt apologetic tears by our future leaders.

    Will we have a future Taoiseach apologising for the way we currently treat children in the care of the HSE, or apologising for the way we treat our prisoners, or those in asylum centres to whom we pay €19 a week or the fact that we pay €9.60 a week child benefit for their children, whilst other children within our nation receive benefits many times in excess of this?

    What do ye think fellow posters; has Kenny set a current precedent which might reveal his Government in the future as being hypocritically shallow in some measure, given the above?
    I doubt this individual has the wherewithal to realise the implications for future generations of Irish taxpayers over this

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishWelshCelt View Post
    Taoiseach Mary Lou will be apologizing some day in the future.
    And god knows she has a lot to apologize for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    And god knows she has a lot to apologize for.
    I had to listen to her FF isms in UL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radix View Post
    upholders of moral principle on behalf of the State
    Who are you referring to here?

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