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Thread: Ireland's Self Destruction Gene - How Europe Took Advantage of a Fatal Flaw

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    Default Ireland's Self Destruction Gene - How Europe Took Advantage of a Fatal Flaw

    Here's a question for you, what do the following countries have in common:

    Austria
    Belgium
    Cyprus
    Estonia
    Finland - According to Lempo Finland are as bad as us and thus should be excluded from the list
    France
    Germany
    Greece
    Italy
    Luxembourg
    Malta
    Netherlands
    Portugal
    Slovakia
    Slovenia
    Spain?


    Yes indeed, they are all members of the Eurozone. But that's not it. Can you tell which country is missing? That's right, Ireland. So what have these countries got in common with each other that excludes the Irish Republic?

    Easy, none of them have a paranoid requirement to be liked. None of these countries care one jot what anyone else thinks about them, and most of them take a lot of pleasure about being disliked. These countries have great pride in terms of status in the world and how they are looked upon politically, economically and in some cases militarily. But unlike ourselves, they don't have this pathological desire to be liked by all and sundry.

    In fact, there is only one other country in Europe that shares ours self-obsessed desire to be liked.

    The UK.

    Both of us hate criticism and obsess about our national image in relation to others. But there is a critical difference between the UK and us. The UK has a very heightened sense of what is right, just and fair. This allows then to sack politicians and men of influence and power. This allows them to stand tall and proud when faced with what they perceive as bullying tactics by larger countries or groups.

    Unfortunately, we don't have this heightened sense of justice. That's not to say that we don't understand what is right or wrong, we just don't actually do anything about it.







    We appease, others oppose
    We give in, others give out
    We take a soft line, they take a hard line
    We wait patiently, with begging bowl, in line, while other just take what they want

    And we do this, because we want to be liked. Because we are worried about our image. Because of this, we are where we are.

    Well, we should be happy, people still like us....
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    Mark Murray.

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    Extraordinary post laden with totally unproven sweeping assertions and generalisations. Back to retirement for you if this is all you have to add. We have bob/neutron and countless others to start these brain dead rants already. We don't need you doing it as well.
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    Just looking at Sarkozy condescendingly patting Kenny on the cheek..pathetic.

    Our Taoiseach is a simpleton.

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    We want foreigners to like us. . . . But we're ruthless to our own!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    We want foreigners to like us. . . . But we're ruthless to our own!
    don't you know foreigners are.....well ...better than Irish
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    Are you pandering to the simpletons around here are you or did you actually start this thread on purpose? You can already see the type of thoughtful considered response you'll get above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malbekh View Post
    Here's a question for you, what do the following countries have in common:

    Austrial
    Belgium
    Cyprus
    Estonia
    Finland
    France
    Germany
    Greece
    Italy
    Luxembourg
    Malta
    Netherlands
    Portugal
    Slovakia
    Slovenia
    Spain?


    Yes indeed, they are all members of the Eurozone. But that's not it. Can you tell which country is missing? That's right, Ireland. So what have these countries got in common with each other that excludes the Irish Republic?

    Easy, none of them have a paranoid requirement to be liked. None of these countries care one jot what anyone else thinks about them, and most of them take a lot of pleasure about being disliked. These countries have great pride in terms of status in the world and how they are looked upon politically, economically and in some cases militarily. But unlike ourselves, they don't have this pathological desire to be liked by all and sundry.

    In fact, there is only one other country in Europe that shares ours self-obsessed desire to be liked.

    The UK.

    Both of us hate criticism and obsess about our national image in relation to others. But there is a critical difference between the UK and us. The UK has a very heightened sense of what is right, just and fair. This allows then to sack politicians and men of influence and power. This allows them to stand tall and proud when faced with what they perceive as bullying tactics by larger countries or groups.

    Unfortunately, we don't have this heightened sense of justice. That's not to say that we don't understand what is right or wrong, we just don't actually do anything about it.







    We appease, others oppose
    We give in, others give out
    We take a soft line, they take a hard line
    We wait patiently, with begging bowl, in line, while other just take what they want

    And we do this, because we want to be liked. Because we are worried about our image. Because of this, we are where we are.

    Well, we should be happy, people still like us....
    On fire today sir. Would liking this defeat the point of the post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    Extraordinary post laden with totally unproven sweeping assertions and generalisations. Back to retirement for you if this is all you have to add. We have bob/neutron and countless others to start these brain dead rants already. We don't need you doing it as well.
    You're entitled to your opinion, as I am mine. You're not entitled to shut me up though. If you have an issue with the post then debate, rather than inserting your own sweeping assertions and generalisations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malbekh View Post
    You're entitled to your opinion, as I am mine. You're not entitled to shut me up though. If you have an issue with the post then debate, rather than inserting your own sweeping assertions and generalisations.
    That's the whole point! You offered no opinion, no facts, no examples, nothing. Just a few random thoughts which may or may not have any validity. Could have thought up and wrote the whole thing in 30 seconds. Do you have any evidence for any of your claims? Any links, supporting articles,etc, etc. Otherwise its just a half-baked invite to the many posters with limited comprehension skills to ramble on about god knows what in a familiar manner.
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