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Thread: Manufactured Crisis: Obama's budget sequester to kick in on March 1st

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    Default Manufactured Crisis: Obama's budget sequester to kick in on March 1st

    Criminals will walk free, the crime rate will soar, low-income women, infants and children will starve, homelessness will skyrocket, hundreds of thousands of "seriously mentally ill adults" and "seriously emotionally disturbed children" will go untreated, families will be poisoned because of reduced food safety inspections (not an issue for those who will be starving, obviously), 1,000 FBI agents will be sacked or furloughed and defense programs will be gutted putting the nation's security in peril, HIV transmission will soar, tax cheats will evade detection en masse, over a million disadvantaged students will face savage cutbacks, thousands of teachers will be sacked and the economy will tank. Those seeking to flee a country in chaos will be going nowhere quickly because flights will also be delayed (or air travel "calamity" as Obama's Transportation Secretary put it).

    PolitiFact | Barack Obama says sequester could force prosecutors to 'let criminals go'
    Fact Sheet: Examples of How the Sequester Would Impact Middle Class Families, Jobs and Economic Security | The White House
    White House warns of flight delays if sequester is not averted - The Washington Post

    This is the picture painted by the White House of what will happen after March 1st when automatic spending cuts of $85 billion from a $3.6 trillion federal budget begin to take effect over the seven months spanning March-September, a process called sequestration. Domestic spending will be cut by 5% and the Pentagon budget will be down 8%. Who created this sequestration monster that will have such catastropic effects if an increasingly remote deal to put it off is not reached between President Obama and congressional Republicans?



    Naturally, Obama is claiming that it's all down to those nasty Republicans in congress. He called it a 'manufactured crisis' and a 'meat-cleaver' approach in a speech in front of emergency service personnel as part of a PR offensive to blame sequestration on Republicans. The idea of sequestration originated in congress, he said in the third debate with Mitt Romney in October: "First of all, the sequester is not something that I've proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed. It will not happen," Obama said. Senior congressional Democrats have also been making this claim and the public seem to be buying it, although only 27% are paying close attention to the issue. A Pew poll released Wednesday revealed that a 49% would blame Republicans, 31% would blame Obama and 11% would blame both if Obama and Congress don't strike a deal on the sequester before March 1st.



    Republicans have claimed Obama is responsible for the sequestration process, he proposed it and had said that he would veto attempts to undo sequestration.



    Enter Bob Woodward, the famous Washington Post reporter who exposed the Watergate scandal. He supports the Republican claims that Obama is the creator of the budget sequestration plan he now decries and claims will lead to catastrophic effects:

    Journalism icon Bob Woodward wrote in a new Washington Post op-ed first that the sequester was the “brain child” of the White House, calling out President Barack Obama for saying it was created by Congress.

    “My extensive reporting for my book ‘The Price of Politics’ shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of [Jack Lew, then-budget director during the negotiations] and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government,” Woodward wrote on a piece posted on Friday night.

    Woodward continued: “Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid [D-Nev.]. They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.”
    Bob Woodward: Obama owns sequestration - Kevin Cirilli - POLITICO.com

    Woodward's welcome intervention will give the White House pause for thought on their current strategy of scare tactics to force concessions from Republicans and may lead to a more calm and measured negotiation process to avert this 'manufactured crisis'.
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    Who listens to Woodward any more when his last "insider" books on Bush and Obama have turned out to be crap?

    Every knows the Republicans own this one, and are just wriggling on the hook on which they impaled themselves.

    It makes a mockery of their public position that the enemies of "military Keynesianism" and "Big Government spending" are quaking in their boots at the thought of defence plants shutting down, and workers laid off.

    Obama Administration Warns Of Budget Cuts' Impact
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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Who listens to Woodward any more when his last "insider" books on Bush and Obama have turned out to be crap?
    Quite a lot of people listen to Woodward actually which is why his intervention is being regarded as important and why the White House have accused Woodward of being 'willfully wrong'.

    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Every knows the Republicans own this one, and are just wriggling on the hook on which they impaled themselves.

    It makes a mockery of their public position that the enemies of "military Keynesianism" and "Big Government spending" are quaking in their boots at the thought of defence plants shutting down, and workers laid off.

    Obama Administration Warns Of Budget Cuts' Impact
    Are you denying that the sequestration plan came from the White House?
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    Obama owns this one. It was part of a last ditch effort from the White House to get the debt ceiling raised back in 2011 under the assumption that the sequester would never be allowed to come into effect. Well it was supposed to come into effect at the end of last year but got a stay of execution for two months.

    It remains to be seen just how much of an impact the cuts will have and how long it will take before the impact is felt. I hope the Cabinet and agency heads don't do what they did the last time, that is cut essential services first instead of the more discretionary non essential stuff.

    In any event I expect more rating agency downgrades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCKY View Post
    Obama owns this one. It was part of a last ditch effort from the White House to get the debt ceiling raised back in 2011 under the assumption that the sequester would never be allowed to come into effect. Well it was supposed to come into effect at the end of last year but got a stay of execution for two months.

    It remains to be seen just how much of an impact the cuts will have and how long it will take before the impact is felt. I hope the Cabinet and agency heads don't do what they did the last time, that is cut essential services first instead of the more discretionary non essential stuff.

    In any event I expect more rating agency downgrades.
    They'll probably do the same again or worse based on Obama's 'the sky will fall in' rhetoric.

    The spat with Watergate legend Bob Woodward is an interesting sideshow. Calling the White House's pushback against him as "a classic case of distortion and confusion" Woodward explained why Obama calling for more tax increases was "moving the goal-posts":

    "The deal negotiated by Vice President Biden and Senate Minority Leader McConnell on the sequester gave the president something he deemed essential: a one-step increase in the debt ceiling so he and the Congress would not have to repeat another contentious debt ceiling negotiation in election year 2012. That was his win. The Republican win was no tax increases in what became the sequester. Election year 2012 has passed. To seek more tax increases is to change the terms of the agreement. The president is fully entitled to do that but we ought to call it what it is."
    5 days to sequester -- WOODWARD v. WHITE HOUSE! Bob challenges a West Winger to debate his sequester reporting with Boehner or aide at Playbook Breakfast -- FAVREAU, VIETOR to form Fenway Strategies - POLITICO Playbook - POLITICO.com

    Obama's high risk strategy of of using scare tactics to pin the blame for sequestration on Republicans has drawn increasing scepticism and criticism in recent days:

    Is President Obama overplaying sequestration hand? - Carrie Budoff Brown and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com
    Has President Obama taken his GOP-bashing too far? - The Week
    Hysteric in Chief insists the sky is falling! | Boston Herald
    Obama Takes Big Risk With His Sequester Gamble - Investors.com
    Obama uses scare tactics to push GOP on tax hikes to avoid sequester cuts - NYPOST.com
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/us...uts.html?_r=2&
    Noonan: Government by Freakout - WSJ.com
    More scare tactics from Obama administration
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    Yes it looks like the media which created him are the only people who can hold him to account.

    They let him away with his flip/flop on raising the debt ceiling but surely this (sequester) is one act of hypocrisy too many.

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    Woodward is now a Fox News contributor which lowers him in many people's eyes. He

    was a fearless young man when he exposed Watergate with Bernstein but he's old now

    and looking for a safe berth. As he works for Fox he HAS to blame Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyLou View Post
    Woodward is now a Fox News contributor which lowers him in many people's eyes. He

    was a fearless young man when he exposed Watergate with Bernstein but he's old now

    and looking for a safe berth. As he works for Fox he HAS to blame Obama.
    That's a laughable attack on Woodward.

    Firstly, he is not a Fox News contributor and doesn't work for Fox. Period. He occasionally appears as a guest on all of the major networks, as can be seen on the (current) main page of his website. Bob Woodward

    You are either confusing occasional guests and paid contributors or just want to lie about Woodward.

    "He's old now and looking for a safe berth" - what waffle and nonsense.

    "he works for Fox he HAS to blame Obama" - more nonsense. Look up Juan Williams and see if he 'blames Obama'.
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    Skyrocket. I disagree with you. Anytime that he has been on Fox, he always agrees with

    the GOP position. He has got more conservative in his old age and so do a lot of other people. Thats normal.

    Juan Williams is on Fox to give the opposing view. He seems a very nice man. But thats his job. To give an appearance of balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyLou View Post
    Skyrocket. I disagree with you. Anytime that he has been on Fox, he always agrees with

    the GOP position. He has got more conservative in his old age and so do a lot of other people. Thats normal.

    Juan Williams is on Fox to give the opposing view. He seems a very nice man. But thats his job. To give an appearance of balance.
    Google 'Bob Woodward Fox News' throws up a few stories on the front page where Woodward actually criticises Fox News, specifically in this article:

    Fox News chief’s failed attempt to enlist Petraeus as presidential candidate - The Washington Post

    When did Woodward last appear on Fox News LadyLou?

    Only since his intervention in the sequester debate is Woodward being considered a conservative supporting Republicans through dishonest or biased reporting. Which is a load of nonsense. Woodward's political ideology is centre-left which matches the ideology of The Washington Post, a paper that endorsed Obama in 2012. Woodward is associate editor of that paper.
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