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    Much of the discourse in contemporary international finance suggests that countries are in a rush to open and boost relations with the BRIC countries as they are believed to be the next major economic hubs.

    Small states like ours will most likely get little headway with these growing powers due to our small influence.

    So I pose the question: Should Ireland Create Strategic Partnerships with other Small States?

    Ireland is not publicised around the world outside of the major economic hubs. An example of this is from a Taiwan person I know who prior to coming to Ireland, believed we were part of the UK.

    So this OP suggests that we should create these strategic partnerships with small states in order to enhance our reputation in the region and claim some early markets which will inevitably grow in a resulting economic boom of the BRICs due to a flying geese paradigm.

    The following are a list of States I think we could create partnerships with:

    • Estonia
    • Uruguay
    • Malaysia
    • Namibia
    • Azerbaijan


    The partnerships would involve trade missions and perhaps donating expertise from this country to help develop those countries into a stable modern liberal democratic state (I know Estonia already is..). Note, no monetary financing per say, just expertise and perhaps trade agreements if the WTO allows it.

    Each of the forementioned States are located near large emerging markets. They will not have the same competition as the BRICs and, if we can develop our presence in these countries, there would be many bordering countries willing to engage with Ireland.

    We need to be smart with our economic recovery. Rushing blindfolded into the BRIC's just because the WSJ says so is foolish.

    There are of course many other countries I could have mentioned, and if you feel I left out an obvious one, please share.

    I will finish on this: Concentrating all our trade with the EU and the BRIC's going forward ignores the vast potential that is out there which would have less international competition.

    What say's the board?


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    An excellent idea. It is an idea that is to some extent in practise already. But your idea provides an emphasis and conceptual framework that other arrangements lack. You should write the idea up send it to TDs and try to get on the radio.

    I think that this should be the future of Irish Aid and Immigration policy as well as a very useful long term diplomatic strategy.

    My only criticism would be the absence of European countries from the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happytuesdays View Post
    An excellent idea. It is an idea that is to some extent in practise already. But your idea provides an emphasis and conceptual framework that other arrangements lack. You should write the idea up send it to TDs and try to get on the radio.

    I think that this should be the future of Irish Aid and Immigration policy as well as a very useful long term diplomatic strategy.

    My only criticism would be the absence of European countries from the list.
    Thank you for replying.

    I included Estonia which I think, would allow Ireland to radiate influence throughout the baltic states.
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    Brilliant Idea. I am sort of busy now but will opine a bit later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Thank you for replying.

    I included Estonia which I think, would allow Ireland to radiate influence throughout the balkans.
    Baltics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bates View Post
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    The countries below have populations below six million and over three million:

    Tibet 5,700,000 108
    Sierra Leone 5,525,000 109
    Nicaragua 5,487,000 110
    Denmark 5,431,000 111
    Slovakia 5,401,000 112
    Kyrgyzstan 5,264,000 113
    Finland 5,249,000[7] 114
    Turkmenistan 4,833,000 115
    Norway 4,620,000[8] 116
    Croatia 4,551,000 117
    United Arab Emirates 4,496,000 118
    Georgia 4,474,000 119
    Eritrea 4,401,000 120
    Costa Rica 4,327,000 121
    Singapore 4,326,000 122
    Moldova 4,206,000 123
    Ireland 4,148,000 123
    Central African Republic 4,038,000 124
    New Zealand 4,028,000 125
    Republic of the Congo 3,999,000 126
    Bosnia and Herzegovina 3,907,000 128
    Lebanon 3,577,000 130
    Uruguay 3,463,000 131
    Lithuania 3,431,000 132
    Liberia 3,283,000 133
    Panama 3,232,000 134
    Albania 3,130,000 135
    Mauritania 3,069,000 136
    Armenia 3,016,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by happytuesdays View Post
    The countries below have populations below six million and over three million:

    Tibet 5,700,000 108
    Sierra Leone 5,525,000 109
    Nicaragua 5,487,000 110
    Denmark 5,431,000 111
    Slovakia 5,401,000 112
    Kyrgyzstan 5,264,000 113
    Finland 5,249,000[7] 114
    Turkmenistan 4,833,000 115
    Norway 4,620,000[8] 116
    Croatia 4,551,000 117
    United Arab Emirates 4,496,000 118
    Georgia 4,474,000 119
    Eritrea 4,401,000 120
    Costa Rica 4,327,000 121
    Singapore 4,326,000 122
    Moldova 4,206,000 123
    Ireland 4,148,000 123
    Central African Republic 4,038,000 124
    New Zealand 4,028,000 125
    Republic of the Congo 3,999,000 126
    Bosnia and Herzegovina 3,907,000 128
    Lebanon 3,577,000 130
    Uruguay 3,463,000 131
    Lithuania 3,431,000 132
    Liberia 3,283,000 133
    Panama 3,232,000 134
    Albania 3,130,000 135
    Mauritania 3,069,000 136
    Armenia 3,016,000
    Out of that list, Costa Rica and Georgia seem the best options. We don't want a basket case on our hands either or rich states like New Zealand which are isolated geographically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopdoingstuff View Post
    Brilliant Idea. I am sort of busy now but will opine a bit later.
    Thanks, look forward to your insight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Much of the discourse in contemporary international finance suggests that countries are in a rush to open and boost relations with the BRIC countries as they are believed to be the next major economic hubs.

    Small states like ours will most likely get little headway with these growing powers due to our small influence.

    So I pose the question: Should Ireland Create Strategic Partnerships with other Small States?

    Ireland is not publicised around the world outside of the major economic hubs. An example of this is from a Taiwan person I know who prior to coming to Ireland, believed we were part of the UK.

    So this OP suggests that we should create these strategic partnerships with small states in order to enhance our reputation in the region and claim some early markets which will inevitably grow in a resulting economic boom of the BRICs due to a flying geese paradigm.

    The following are a list of States I think we could create partnerships with:

    • Estonia
    • Uruguay
    • Malaysia
    • Namibia
    • Azerbaijan


    The partnerships would involve trade missions and perhaps donating expertise from this country to help develop those countries into a stable modern liberal democratic state (I know Estonia already is..). Note, no monetary financing per say, just expertise and perhaps trade agreements if the WTO allows it.

    Each of the forementioned States are located near large emerging markets. They will not have the same competition as the BRICs and, if we can develop our presence in these countries, there would be many bordering countries willing to engage with Ireland.

    We need to be smart with our economic recovery. Rushing blindfolded into the BRIC's just because the WSJ says so is foolish.

    There are of course many other countries I could have mentioned, and if you feel I left out an obvious one, please share.

    I will finish on this: Concentrating all our trade with the EU and the BRIC's going forward ignores the vast potential that is out there which would have less international competition.

    What say's the board?


    Rus.
    It is a very good idea in principle that you suggest here.

    One caveat, there have been moves for closer economic integration between the UK and Ireland in recent years.
    Would the type of alliance you propose have any impact on the Ireland/UK initiative?
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