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    Default Pakistan's forgotten genocide in Bangladesh.

    Most people, when they hear the word 'genocide' are inclined to think of the Holocaust, Turkish/Ottoman crimes against Armenians, the slaughter of Tutsis and moderate Hutus in Rwanda or the deeds of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.

    One seems to be largely forgotten about although the numbers killed are comparable to nearly all of the above. In 1971, East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) was breaking away from West Pakistan and there is a lot of evidence that the Pakistan army committed dreadful atrocities against the Bangladeshi people.

    After Indian and Pakistani independence in 1947, West Pakistan (now just Pakistan) and East Pakistan were one state albeit separated by some two and a half thousand kilometres of Indian territory. In reality there was little sense of nationhood and many West Pakistanis looked down on the "small and dark" Bengalis and were "embarrassed" to have them as compatriots. General Niazi who headed the Pakistani Forces in Bangladesh regarded it contemptuously as "a low lying land of low lying people".

    Eventually, with Indian assistance, Bangladesh did break free but not before there was a bloodletting on a massive scale as the Pakistani army targeted doctors, intellectuals, the educated classes, students and anyone likely to form a core of resistance.

    The total of 3 million killed might be an exaggeration and some commentators say it originated in a statement from the then Pakistani President, Yahya Khan who said of the Bangladeshis, "Kill three million of them and the rest will eat out of our hands". While most settle on a figure of 1.5m killed, the very lowest estimate seems to be about a half million slaughtered in 10 months of madness. Mass graves are still being found; accurate figures will never be known. If there is any evidence that can be undisputably neutral, it comes from US diplomatic staff appalled at the bloodletting and at the Nixon's administration's approach which was to avoid embarrassing Islamabad. See source 1 for the so-called "Blood Telegram".

    This episode is of current interest because of recent events in Dhaka, the Bangladeshi capital, where the life sentence handed down to one Abdul Quader Mollah (a senior figure in the Jamaat-e-Islami party) for aforementioned crimes in 1971 has outraged ordinary Bangladeshis who wanted him condemned to death. In response, the parliament has amended a law so that it can appeal the apparent leniency of the sentence. One way or another, what with Pakistani indifference to what its army did, the scars of 1971 are still very raw.

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    1. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...d_telegram.png
    2. Genocide Since 1945: Never Again? - SPIEGEL ONLINE
    3. Shahbag Square - why we Pakistanis don't know and don't care
    4. Bangladesh amends war crimes law, mulls banning Islamists | Reuters
    Eagla agus eaglais: an bhfuil an fhréamh teangeolaíochta céanna acu?

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    I read this excellent article in the Observer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex celt View Post
    I read this excellent article in the Observer
    This one?

    Bangladesh parliament amends war crime law to challenge sentence | World news | guardian.co.uk
    Eagla agus eaglais: an bhfuil an fhréamh teangeolaíochta céanna acu?

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    Please don't try saying anything about this to the general masses next time you are in Pakistan...

    To them its mere propaganda to blacken their name and justifyIndian aggression...

    I recall it at the time and the reports of massacres

    It was'nt all one way though



    Those who had collaborated with the Pakistani army were publicly killed.

    HISTORY IN IMAGES: AMAZING PICTURES: Painful birth of Bangladesh 1971

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    Please don't try saying anything about this to the general masses next time you are in Pakistan...

    To them its mere propaganda to blacken their name and justifyIndian aggression...

    I recall it at the time and the reports of massacres

    It was'nt all one way though



    Those who had collaborated with the Pakistani army were publicly killed.

    HISTORY IN IMAGES: AMAZING PICTURES: Painful birth of Bangladesh 1971
    Yes, from reading around, I have come across stories of reprisals. In particular, there are accounts of acts of revenge against Urdu-speaking Moslem Biharis who would have moved from India to East Pakistan/Bangladesh in 1947 to avoid living in the newly independent, Hindu-dominated India. They were perceived to be collaborators with the Pakistani army and their crimes.
    Eagla agus eaglais: an bhfuil an fhréamh teangeolaíochta céanna acu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shqiptar View Post
    Yes, from reading around, I have come across stories of reprisals. In particular, there are accounts of acts of revenge against Urdu-speaking Moslem Biharis who would have moved from India to East Pakistan/Bangladesh in 1947 to avoid living in the newly independent, Hindu-dominated India. They were perceived to be collaborators with the Pakistani army and their crimes.
    The Biharis and the Bengalis hate each other!

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    This episode is of current interest because of recent events in Dhaka, the Bangladeshi capital, where the life sentence handed down to one Abdul Quader Mollah (a senior figure in the Jamaat-e-Islami party) for aforementioned crimes in 1971 has outraged ordinary Bangladeshis who wanted him condemned to death. In response, the parliament has amended a law so that it can appeal the apparent leniency of the sentence. One way or another, what with Pakistani indifference to what its army did, the scars of 1971 are still very raw.
    You'd pobably not be suprised to learn that his soul mate , one Chowdhury Mueen-Uddin is now gainfully employed by the NHS in Britain as a counsellor !!

    Here. he established himself as a pillar of the Bangladeshi British Muslim establishment, the prime mover it its Jamaat-e-Islami directed Islamist politics, and – most shockingly – as the director of Muslim Spiritual Care Provision in the NHS and is also a chairman of the Multi-Faith Group for Healthcare Chaplaincy.
    Oh what a rod the Brits are making for their own backs !!

    In other religion of peace news - where jihad means inner struggle , a Bangladeshi blogger has been found with his throat cut - a signature of the Jammat- i- Islami faction.

    Shahbagh protester killed - bdnews24.com

    Ahmed Rajib Haider, 26, was an active participant of the ongoing nonstop demonstrations at Shahbagh demanding death sentences for all ‘war criminals’.

    Officer-in-Charge of Pallabi Police Station Abdul Latif Sheikh told bdnews24.com that they recovered Shuvo’s body from Laalmatia’s Palashnagar around 9pm.

    He said the face bore signs of slashes. A scarf was wrapped around the blogger’s throat, Sheikh added.
    "What Michael Collins accepted in '22,De Valera accepted in'27 and Gerry Adams accepted in '98.Sooner or later they all come around to accepting the Treaty"

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    who cares?

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    The conflict between Pakistanis Hindus and Indians and Benghalis all has its roots in the Aryan migrations 1,500 BC. The dark skinned peoples of the Indian subcontinent arrived there probably not long after the last ice age and thrived. The Aryans came from Caucasus, moved down through the mountains of Iran and Afghanistan and conquered the Indus valley. Islam spread across the Middle East, Persia and into northern India in the first millennium AD. The Muslims had been trying to rule the north of subcontinent from the Indus to the Ganges ever since while the Hindu Indians have been trying to keep out.







    The dark skinned Muslims of the Indian subcontinent and Bangladesh have a hybrid Islam that has elements of Hinduism.

    The austere ideologically pure Muslims of the north east see it as alien as Hinduism itself.
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