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    Should Fianna Fáil apologise for the Civil War?

    When Fianna Fáil under Bertie Ahern commended the Good Friday Agreement to the Irish People and asked them to vote to concede on Articles 2 & 3 of the Constitution it marked a u turn in the Fianna Fáil position on a United Ireland.

    The revolutionaries who shunned the Irish Free State and who entered the Dáil in 1927 grudgingly after inflicting a vicious Civil War on their people have yet to admit they were wrong to inflict a Civil War on a young independent State, wrecking lives and property in the cause of some thing they would eventually abandon.

    Of Course many were delighted to see Fianna Fáil finally come closer to democracy and reason and to have asked them to have apologised for the Civil war may have been asking them to walk further than they were able or willing at the time.

    A cynic might suggest that Articles 2 &3 were nothing more to Fianna Fáil than a vote harvesting tool!

    Now is a good time for Fianna Fáil to offer an apology to the Irish Nation for the Civil war which they inflicted on our people against their democratic will!



    In early March 1922 DeValera he formed the "Cumann na Poblachta" (Republican Association) party while remaining a member of Sinn Féin and commenced a speaking tour of the more republican province of Munster on 17 March 1922.

    During the tour, de Valera made controversial speeches at Carrick on Suir, Lismore, Dungarvan and Waterford, saying at one point,"If the Treaty were accepted, the fight for freedom would still go on, and the Irish people, instead of fighting foreign soldiers, will have to fight the Irish soldiers of an Irish government set up by Irishmen."

    At Thurles, several days later, he repeated this imagery and added that the IRA "would have to wade through the blood of the soldiers of the Irish Government, and perhaps through that of some members of the Irish Government to get their freedom."

    In a letter to the Irish Independent on 23 March, de Valera accepted the accuracy of their report of his comment about "wading" through blood, but deplored that the newspaper had published it.
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    I think Fianna Fáil would be better off apologizing for actions which were closer to the present. Also I think you a bit behind the times if you think Fianna Fáil only came closer to democracy in 1998.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IbrahaimMohamad View Post
    Should Fianna Fáil apologise for the Civil War!
    should trolls be allowed to start treads ?
    "If we VOTE YES there will be no more austere budgets. Fact " Hammer, mayday 12'

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    Quote Originally Posted by neiphin View Post
    should trolls be allowed to start treads ?
    It is a legitimate question!

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    Should they really? Although Fianna Fáil had anti treaty people who fought in the civil war leading it at the beginning, the party itself didn't exist in the civil war as it was founded three years after the anti treaty side lost so therefore has nothing to do with it.
    I have closed down this account, I am now The Rahenyite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RahenyFG View Post
    Should they really? Although Fianna Fáil had anti treaty people who fought in the civil war leading it at the beginning, the party itself didn't exist in the civil war as it was founded three years after the anti treaty side lost so therefore has nothing to do with it.
    Where do you think Fianna Fáil came from?

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    Only if Fine Gael apologise for Brian Hayes.
    Infamy, infamy, they've all got it infamy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RahenyFG View Post
    Should they really? Although Fianna Fáil had anti treaty people who fought in the civil war leading it at the beginning, the party itself didn't exist in the civil war as it was founded three years after the anti treaty side lost so therefore has nothing to do with it.
    christ your some tit
    "If we VOTE YES there will be no more austere budgets. Fact " Hammer, mayday 12'

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    Given that Fianna Fáil put down a motion last week asking FG/Labour to apologise to the Magdalene women who FF had be telling to Eff Off for the last 14 years....... I think it's only a matter of time before Fianna Fáil demand that Fine Gael apologise for starting the Civil War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IbrahaimMohamad View Post
    Where do you think Fianna Fáil came from?
    Germany?

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