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    Is a Common Defence of the British Isles the only Rational Strategy for effective defence?

    For far too long we have insisted there is a need to maintain an Army of our own while opposing any step for a common effective defence of the British Isles.

    The most advanced MIG jets are capable of flying at Mach 3 which mean the plane will cover almost 994 metres in a single second. The British need to exert effective control of Irish Air space to have any effective control of their own air space.

    A MIG jet can cross the Irish sea in just 90 seconds. During WW2 it would take a fighter plane 10 minutes to cross the Irish sea. No army can maintain an effective defence without achieving and maintaining Air Superiority.

    From our own perspective we could not maintain any control of our skies without British Assistance, and consequently our forces could only endure in the field with the help of British Air Cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IbrahaimMohamad View Post
    Is a Common Defence of the British Isles the only Rational Strategy for effective defence?

    For far too long we have insisted there is a need to maintain an Army of our own while opposing any step for a common effective defence of the British Isles.

    The most advanced MIG jets are capable of flying at Mach 3 which mean the plane will cover almost 994 metres in a single second. The British need to exert effective control of Irish Air space to have any effective control of their own air space.

    A MIG jet can cross the Irish sea in just 90 seconds. During WW2 it would take a fighter plane 10 minutes to cross the Irish sea. No army can maintain an effective defence without achieving and maintaining Air Superiority.

    From our own perspective we could not maintain any control of our skies without British Assistance, and consequently our forces could only endure in the field with the help of British Air Cover.
    I am not even sure if jet fighters are that relevant any more in an era of "asymmetrical warfare".
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    Quote Originally Posted by IbrahaimMohamad View Post
    Is a Common Defence of the British Isles the only Rational Strategy for effective defence?

    For far too long we have insisted there is a need to maintain an Army of our own while opposing any step for a common effective defence of the British Isles.

    The most advanced MIG jets are capable of flying at Mach 3 which mean the plane will cover almost 994 metres in a single second. The British need to exert effective control of Irish Air space to have any effective control of their own air space.

    A MIG jet can cross the Irish sea in just 90 seconds. During WW2 it would take a fighter plane 10 minutes to cross the Irish sea. No army can maintain an effective defence without achieving and maintaining Air Superiority.

    From our own perspective we could not maintain any control of our skies without British Assistance, and consequently our forces could only endure in the field with the help of British Air Cover.
    wtf?????????

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    Defense against who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    Defense against who?
    There must be some threat or we would not be borrowing €900 million a year to maintain a defence force!

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    The British Isles deserve to be defended against whatever you imagine but what about Ireland?
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    Maybe we don't want to fire them all? And maybe they have another purpose? Coastal patrols, escort duties, ceremonial events, weather or other crisis? The defense forces are not solely for fighting wars you know.
    One more time...............who do you expect to attack us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    Maybe we don't want to fire them all? And maybe they have another purpose? Coastal patrols, escort duties, ceremonial events, weather or other crisis? The defense forces are not solely for fighting wars you know.
    One more time...............who do you expect to attack us?
    Almost a billion a year is half the cost of Children's Allowance. There must be some threat when we are cutting the Children's allowance rather than Defence spending!

    If the threat is even remote surely we should be optimising the most effective defence by cooperating and integrating with the Brits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IbrahaimMohamad View Post
    Almost a billion a year is half the cost of Children's Allowance. There must be some threat when we are cutting the Children's allowance rather than Defence spending!

    If the threat is even remote surely we should be optimising the most effective defence by cooperating and integrating with the Brits?
    I'll try again. Where do you see a credible threat coming from?
    Otherwise this thread is a waste of space without one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    I'll try again. Where do you see a credible threat coming from?
    Otherwise this thread is a waste of space without one.
    I am no expert on where it might come form? Surely we would not borrow a billion a year (including interest) to maintain a defence of sorts even an inadequate one unless some threat was perceived while we are forced to cut Childrens Allowance?

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